Players need job/class combo info ASAP to have time to prepare.

[Eldaena]

Personally I think they will hold off on the info until a few days before they implement it if the changes to classes are huge. If the announced today that THM was getting rebuilt and most of it's offensive/debuff skills were being removed and replaced with curing and buffing spells people would be going apeshit for a forever long it took them to implement it. If they wait until just before they put it in then yeah people will still go crazy but at least it will be done and dusted and not drawn out over a month or so waiting for the update.

The way it sounds to me is they are probably going to deconstruct what conjurer and thaumaturge are, as well as the other classes. I wouldn't be surprised to see defender go to gladiator, for example. They will probably streamline class abilities from the bottom up to fit more neatly into the package their jobs will eventually be.

[Peregrine]

The way it sounds to me is they are probably going to deconstruct what conjurer and thaumaturge are, as well as the other classes. I wouldn't be surprised to see defender go to gladiator, for example. They will probably streamline class abilities from the bottom up to fit more neatly into the package their jobs will eventually be.

I dunno, I think they're going to try to get away with something quite a bit lazier than that and just let the job overlay patch the problem. Reworking all the classes from the ground up...that's gonna need more heads up than what job's going to what class.

Oh by the way conjurer doesn't get AM any more and elemental nukes, but it does get sacrifice and esuna!
That's treason. I know I'd flip my **** for a good week or so before I calmed down and started thaumaturge or arcanist.

[Eldaena]

I dunno, I think they're going to try to get away with something quite a bit lazier than that and just let the job overlay patch the problem. Reworking all the classes from the ground up...that's gonna need more heads up than what job's going to what class.

Oh by the way conjurer doesn't get AM any more and elemental nukes, but it does get sacrifice and esuna!
That's treason. I know I'd flip my **** for a good week or so before I calmed down and started thaumaturge or arcanist.

I wasn't thinking new abilities, but what if they take sacrifice over to conjurer, and debuffs from conjurer over to thm? That's the kind of thing I'm wondering about....it's almost like conjurer needs to turn into black mage or white mage, but where does that leave thm? Time mage and red mage? I don't know.

It's almost like each class needs to split into at least two jobs to make sense.

Edit:

Con - BLM or WHM
Thm- TIM or RDM
Gla - PLD or DRK
Pug - MNK or THF
Lnc- DRA or ...
Mrd- Beastmaster or ...Warrior?
Arc- RNG or Corsair?

I dunno how to fill in the holes. >.<

[Peregrine]

Yeah I would flip my **** if they did that to con. I'd need a biiiiig head's up that heya guys so con is now a...
healerdonthurtmedonthurtmeimthemessager!

[Wynn]

The way it sounds to me is they are probably going to deconstruct what conjurer and thaumaturge are, as well as the other classes. I wouldn't be surprised to see defender go to gladiator, for example. They will probably streamline class abilities from the bottom up to fit more neatly into the package their jobs will eventually be.

I agree they are going to have to restructure the mage classes. They simply have to.

Right now Con could be either a blm or a whm and make sense. It wouldn't make sense to exclude one though. In my opinion, conjurers fit the role of blm much better than whm. They deal with elementals after all. It is a lighter version of blm to be sure, but still closer to blm.

To me, THMs background really suggests whm over blm, though it is a darker kind of whm than we are used to. They deal with life and death.

In any case, these changes are going to make people mad. No getting around that. And I believe that alone is why they are keeping such a tight lip right now. No point in pissing people off now since things could change before they put this stuff in. Better to just wait so that the right group of people get miffed.

I just wonder how they are going to deal with the lore issues tacking these jobs on creates. Arena prize fighters are becoming holy knights? Do pugs become thieves or monks? Thief makes sense based on their lore but not on their abilities. If monks, which is most likely, how does that make sense based on their lore? These quests to unlock the jobs better be good and convincing, that's for sure.

[SuzakuCMX]

I want my thief.

[Physic]

to be perfectly honest this job thing is kind of a bad idea, with only these classes, and a 1 to 1 plan, because like 3 of these jobs dont really fit, but they are going to want to make them fit, into classic roles. Looking at conjurer, its really like a redmage without a sword, thaumaturge is like some usually less known class, maybe oracle maybe something else, but it isnt black mage like at all, not whm like at all. Its a debuff dot tanking mage class. Pugilist doesnt fit the lore of monk in any way, and has most of the skills of theif.

The problem with the 1 to 1 system is its going to force them to make jobs the wrong jobs, just to fulfill the most likely/desired job classes, or to put a class into a role they need, like whm. Honestly no class is very whm like right now, no class should be whm.

[Isaaru]

@OP I entirely agree that we should receive information on which class receives which job in order to prepare because like everyone has already stated what CON and THM are going to be is very confusing. Personally I am going to be trying to rank every class to 50 because I just have the desire to do so, but I can only imagine what disappointment could lie ahead for those who have their specializations and end up misinterpreting which class will receive which job.

@The whole DRK dilemma: I believe that MRD would become DRK if it is going to be implemented. Yes in XI DRK mainly used a Great Sword and Scythe, but like someone had said, it also had decent Great Axe skill. Also, in IV iirc the DRK character used a long sword. So rly it all depends on the devs to determine which weapon DRK would mainly use.

@The job system as a whole: It has been stated that jobs will be party play focused while original classes will remain for solo play and that jobs will still be able to cross class abilities but will be restricted. So say if MRD does indeed become DRK maybe when you equip the DRK job it will be able to use a lot of THM abilities such as the absorb spells, at full affinity, while not being able to use abilities like sacrifice or cure from CON at all.

Really all we can do now is speculate until more information is released, which is something I know we all don't want to do

[Joeking]

I wish to be a bard so I can serenade you all.

♪ Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you♫

[Rowyne]

I wish to be a bard so I can serenade you all.

♪ Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you♫

I would call this Rick Rolling, but you didn't hide it behind something else and surprise me with it... which was a surprise in itself... this confusing tactic is making my head spin!