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    Well a few points here, IIRC Bahamut has never been "evil" in any final fantasy game to date. He usually "tests" the strength of people but is generally of a greater good/cause. In FF1 he is who upgrades you to the next tier of jobs.

    Now, perhaps, Bahamut, was created to prevent say the Ascians using Zodiark to destroy most of humanity or something. Nael could have noticed this and decided to use Bahamut for the benefit of the Empire, but failed. Thus maybe the lusiox and nael we see now have come to terms that Bahamut must be repaired/restored in order to combat Zodiark.

    SO, I predict at some point we will probably fight both at the same time and then after the fight it will be like, "OH we didn't know you guys restoring Bahamut was a good thing." Too late now, commence fight with Zodiark >.>; The fight against Nael will most likely happen, and it will be just as epic as Riven Road (Hard)


    Now... if only my earrings glowed >.>;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    Well a few points here, IIRC Bahamut has never been "evil" in any final fantasy game to date. He usually "tests" the strength of people but is generally of a greater good/cause. In FF1 he is who upgrades you to the next tier of jobs.
    Wrong - in FFXI he was extremely ruthless in an 'end justifies the means' way, as he wanted to destroy Vana'diel and kill all life simply to stop Promathia's resurrection, and FFXIII-2 Bahamut Caius's ultimate form (he turns into three separate versions!). I guess you could also count FFXII as well, but that's a giant airship with Bahamut's name and not actually the King of the Dragons (although Vayne's final form does resemble Bahamut a bit).

    Anyway, there are definitely instances of Bahamut in the FF series being actually evil (and it should be noted in those examples he is completely unsummonable by players).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Wrong - in FFXI he was extremely ruthless in an 'end justifies the means' way, as he wanted to destroy Vana'diel and kill all life simply to stop Promathia's resurrection, and FFXIII-2 Bahamut Caius's ultimate form (he turns into three separate versions!). I guess you could also count FFXII as well, but that's a giant airship with Bahamut's name and not actually the King of the Dragons (although Vayne's final form does resemble Bahamut a bit).

    Anyway, there are definitely instances of Bahamut in the FF series being actually evil (and it should be noted in those examples he is completely unsummonable by players).
    Well, in ff11 he wanted to destory mankind because they brought around emptiness iirc which would destroy everything, including animals and such (which is why he wanted to get rid of man kind).
    So kill all life was somewhat incorrect because he warned us of on coming Apocalypse.

    In 13-2 Caius summoned it and used it for evil. While in 13 Fang had used it for good, so once again he isn't really "evil". Plus Caius wasn't really either >.>; he just cared for Yuel and wanted to end her endless suffering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    Well, in ff11 he wanted to destory mankind because they brought around emptiness iirc which would destroy everything, including animals and such (which is why he wanted to get rid of man kind).
    So kill all life was somewhat incorrect because he warned us of on coming Apocalypse.

    In 13-2 Caius summoned it and used it for evil. While in 13 Fang had used it for good, so once again he isn't really "evil". Plus Caius wasn't really either >.>; he just cared for Yuel and wanted to end her endless suffering.
    Bahamut was most of the time a being of power and destruction, either a simple big dragon you encounter that is neither good nor evil, or sometimes a Dragon that test your strength but everytime he means destruction and power.

    That doesn't seem different in FFXIV ( first thing he does is DESTROY EVERYTHING KABOOOOOOMMMM !!!!! ) we don't know if he seeks revenge against mankind or is simply a Beast that wants only to destroy , we don't know anything about elder primals except that they can summon themselves and the only thing that we can do about it is to trap them.
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