People need to speak up more for Alchemist buff.

[ToraFomalhaut]

List of things

1 - 3: Once again the argument against these, is the time, effort and cost far exceeds the benefits the item conveys. Not to mention the limited inventory space they take up.

4. Well you answered this one yourself.

5. If a healer hasn't topped you off, any elemental resist potions in game as they currently are will not save you from tumult.

6. Warrior has access to flash, along with a lot of classes / jobs having native abilities that apply these de-buffs on their own. Got a sch or smn in your party? Your ability to blind Titan at necessary times to dodge tableflip is gone because he'll be immune from their casual use of ruin.

And the majority of the player base just needs a safe environment to practice and learn the fights script by heart. I mean I'm not an elite player, we've cleared content with far less gear than is available now that CT is released all without the aid of potions. Why? Because we practised and learned the fights sequence of events and reacted to each one accordingly. You don't react to Whirlwind or Tornado or whatever it is properly? No potion is going to save you. Don't stack for fireball? No Vit potion is going to save you.

[Crevox]

1 - 3: Once again the argument against these, is the time, effort and cost far exceeds the benefits the item conveys. Not to mention the limited inventory space they take up.

The time, effort, and cost are the same as food. The inventory space is not even an issue worth commenting on.

5. If a healer hasn't topped you off, any elemental resist potions in game as they currently are will not save you from tumult.

This is just false.

6. Warrior has access to flash, along with a lot of classes / jobs having abilities that apply these debuffs on their own.

A warrior's flash does not blind enemies................................... and the only other way to apply Blind is Ruin II, which I can say the majority of the time (90-95%+++) a tank is not sitting there going "oh, no problem bro, we got a summoner, he's gonna apply blind right before mountain buster"

This only greatly decreases my ability to take your word on anything game related.

[odie]

yes...but food is worth the time and effort. and my gil

[odie]

A warrior's flash does not blind enemie

thats funny because mine does.

[Crevox]

thats funny because mine does.

http://xivdb.com/?skill/90006/Enhanced-Flash

Since when does a Warrior learn Gladiator traits...?

EDIT: Daily post limit achieved, have fun doods

Lastly:

Flash is available as a crossclass and any time i have used it Blind is one of the effects it has applied. I use it often for that reason

This just hurts to read

[odie]

http://xivdb.com/?skill/90006/Enhanced-Flash

Since when does a Warrior learn Gladiator traits...?

Flash is available as a crossclass and any time i have used it Blind is one of the effects it has applied. I use it often for that reason

[ToraFomalhaut]

The time, effort, and cost are the same as food. The inventory space is not even an issue worth commenting on.



This is just false.



A warrior's flash does not blind enemies...................................

This only greatly decreases my ability to take your word on anything game related.

1: Foods extended passive buffs that far outweighs the cost of potions.

3: Seriously think you're going to survive 5-7 stomps on half HP just cause you took an earth resist potion?

6: Eh my apologies pld and war blur together for me. But that error doesn't alter the fact that there are readily many different ways to apply these de-buffs without having to resort to potions. Nor does it alter my point about sch or smn rotations and diminishing returns.

Flash is available as a crossclass and any time i have used it Blind is one of the effects it has applied. I use it often for that reason

No he is correct it was my error, the flash is applied as a trait that comes with GLA or PLD. Warriors version of flash is the base enmity generator.

[odie]

i think Crevox just wants to be heard somehow. This argument still doesn't change the fact that potions are not being used by the majority, ruining business for the Alchemists, and just because its the player base thats making it this way doesn't mean that a change may need to be made in how potions work.

[odie]

No he is correct it was my error, the flash is applied as a trait that comes with GLA or PLD. Warriors version of flash is the base enmity generator.

Maybe i'm not sure if the effect is applied or not, but when i use it, the icon and accompanying text for Blind pop up on my enemies

[ToraFomalhaut]

Maybe i'm not sure if the effect is applied or not, but when i use it, the icon and accompanying text for Blind pop up on my enemies

Yeah I swear I've seen the message appear when I use flash in boss encounters too, but it might just a ruin bolt or pld flash going off around the same time. Anyway lets not derail the topic of conversation.

And yes Crevox I can see you can come up with uses for potions in the game, but that doesn't change the fact that in their current context you really need to go out of your way to find instances that they are 'required' to assist you complete an encounter. And because of this ability to complete encounters without them with out any real trouble, people do not seen any reason why they need to invest in this market. All the while leaving alchemists with very little demand pushing their need to supply said market.