Just give us a chance...

[Tazo]

Stop taking things so personal... People are assholes over runs because they died just as much as you did in the beginning... I don't watch video's because I don't want to ruin the fight... I like not knowing what is gonna happen and having to think of how to over come it... Do I get yelled at... HELL NO cause i'm a healer yell at me and then you get no heals...

I don't know what groups you're in or maybe your server is just short on healers, but if I end up being with a healer who wants to 'experience' the fight the way you describe at the expense of my time, I'll give you the boot with quickness or just leave. You're playing with 7 other people....teh fuk

[Ed_N_Ants]

I don't know what groups you're in or maybe your server is just short on healers, but if I end up being with a healer who wants to 'experience' the fight the way you describe at the expense of my time, I'll give you the boot with quickness or just leave. You're playing with 7 other people....teh fuk

Look they even cry and stomp their feet in the forums...

[ispano]

Look they even cry and stomp their feet in the forums...

If it's a PF group, then he's right, you're just wasting the other people's time. Unless it says learning that is.

[Tazo]

Look they even cry and stomp their feet in the forums...

I don't stomp or cry about bad players, I'll throw out advise and if they continuously die to shit that they shouldn't then they either get the boot or if it is not my group, I leave. No hard feelings.

We have people of different jobs on my server with reputations of simply being bad players. These players are avoided when making groups. Every server has those. Players on that list consist of people who are awesome in general but are just not great players because of lag or slow reaction speed and the others being little shits who think they are special snowflakes. You are the later.

[Ed_N_Ants]

I don't stomp or cry about bad players, I'll throw out advise and if they continuously die to shit that they shouldn't then they either get the boot or if it is not my group, I leave. No hard feelings.

We have people of different jobs on my server with reputations of simply being bad players. These players are avoided when making groups. Every server has those. Players on that list consist of people who are awesome in general but are just not great players because of lag or slow reaction speed and the others being little shits who think they are special snowflakes. You are the later.

You boot people... That means you cry and stomp your feet... Your advise is probably nothing but put downs and negativity... I'm here to help people, i like people, if you play like shit i boot people... Glad i'm not on your server, my server knows I am a special snow flake with the healing skills to back up my non video watching choice... I don't boot people who suck, I work with them to make them better... That's the difference between people like me and people like you... People like me try to help people progress because its a rewarding feeling... People like you want to see yourself progress because it's YOUR rewarding feeling...

[ispano]

You boot people... That means you cry and stomp your feet... Your advise is probably nothing but put downs and negativity... I'm here to help people, i like people, if you play like shit i boot people... Glad i'm not on your server, my server knows I am a special snow flake with the healing skills to back up my non video watching choice... I don't boot people who suck, I work with them to make them better... That's the difference between people like me and people like you... People like me try to help people progress because its a rewarding feeling... People like you want to see yourself progress because it's YOUR rewarding feeling...

Glad i'm not on yours. You can be as polite and nice as you want and some people don't learn, and keep failing. And this type is more common than people like to believe. If you can't perform, and continue to do so, WHY should they keep you? You're just wearing down everyone's gear by not improving.

So no, it's not stomping feet. It's "You're not performing and not improving, and we want to clear this. Bye."

[Noahlimits]

if you play like shit i boot people... Glad i'm not on your server, my server knows I am a special snow flake with the healing skills to back up my non video watching choice... I don't boot people who suck, I work with them to make them better... That's the difference between people like me and people like you... People like me try to help people progress because its a rewarding feeling... People like you want to see yourself progress because it's YOUR rewarding feeling...

Isn't playing like shiz and sucking the same thing?

And as far as the OP goes, if someone constantly wipes like that without improving / asking questions or watching a video, I simply leave. Not worth wasting my time because someone else fails to learn the fight / watch a video. Not worth berating someone, rather just eat the penalty and mine or something.

[Jyoeru]

I don't know what groups you're in or maybe your server is just short on healers, but if I end up being with a healer who wants to 'experience' the fight the way you describe at the expense of my time, I'll give you the boot with quickness or just leave. You're playing with 7 other people....teh fuk

I do the same thing as that guy. I walk in and experience it first. Watching videos, especially for a fight like this, isn't as helpful for people like me. The only mechanic that I would have been a little better prepared for would have been the Ifrit rushes. I walked into Ultima a few days after it released, had no idea what to expect, and my group got it down in about three tries. I was a healer, too, so I didn't "get carried," as I am sure many might proclaim. How many people watched Titan videos but still couldn't master the mechanics? A lot.

[Tazo]

I do the same thing as that guy. I walk in and experience it first. Watching videos, especially for a fight like this, isn't as helpful for people like me. The only mechanic that I would have been a little better prepared for would have been the Ifrit rushes. I walked into Ultima a few days after it released, had no idea what to expect, and my group got it down in about three tries. I was a healer, too, so I didn't "get carried," as I am sure many might proclaim. How many people watched Titan videos but still couldn't master the mechanics? A lot.

Watching a video and/or reading a quick guide before doing a fight WILL help you out a lot more than not doing so. Did you know to stack with everyone else when Aetherial Boom went off to eat those bombs together? Or were you too close to the OT that solo ran through those bombs and you died? Did you know as soon as you entered that a PLD can't block/parry any of the attacks and would need extra attention than a WAR?

All that I am saying is if you choose to join any group for high lvl content, put in the effort like the others in the group and come with the basic knowledge of the mechanics. If you are the type that does not like to research a fight because it ruins your experience don't expect to get anymore than 'Dodge shit, don't die' response when you say that you don't know anything about the fight. Wanting people to explain to you what you could have found out yourself if you took the 5min of time to google is simply lazy. Keep in mind, I am not saying this is you.

Lets say for example you are in a group with people running Titan HM. One player continuously keeps dying to plums before you get to the heart. This is a 'learning party' in the PF not a 'exp only etc.' type of party. You are 10+ wipes deep and he keeps dying to plums. You made this group, what do you do at this point?