Jobs start @50?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Jobs won't have levels and as such won't need to be leveled up. Jobs are an advanced form of the class that unlocks them. So for example purposes, a level 50 Gladiator would be a level 50 Paladin. (Example only!)

Also we can confirm that we'll be changing the term "ranks" (as in rank 50 Pugilist) to "levels" (as in level 50 Pugilist) along with the removal of the physical level. We'll also be changing skill points to experience points.

In summation:
Rank > Level
Skill points > Experience points

Good! because I always have to stop and think before using Rank and SP as terms for Level and Exp. I am being serious right now lol, it's so much more intuitive the terms level and exp.

On to the topic, I think the "job" titles will just modify your gameplay and abilities so that you are more proefficient in certain areas at the cost of other, but thats just my speculation. Also, I doubt they will be unlockable only at rank 50 since they are releasing a rank 30 dungeons... would be sad to not have access to party jobs then.

I will also add that I would have like them to be completely seperate and have to level them like you had in FFXI, but apparently that is not the case so no use to say much about it

[Sorel]

Jobs won't have levels and as such won't need to be leveled up. Jobs are an advanced form of the class that unlocks them. So for example purposes, a level 50 Gladiator would be a level 50 Paladin. (Example only!)

Thank you for this particular clarification, Bayohne. I can't say that this will make anyone happy (I'm pretty sure it's going to make the majority of players unhappy), but at least it's solid detailed information.

[Petori]

So in short, it's like in FFI: Warrior -> Knight, Thief -> Ninja, Monk -> Master etc. Works for me at least.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

So in short, it's like in FFI: Warrior -> Knight, Thief -> Ninja, Monk -> Master etc. Works for me at least.

sure except that Thief and Monk are not classes in the game.

[Petori]

sure except that Thief and Monk are not classes in the game.

Those were jobs from FFI.

[viion]

I like it, i much prefer EXP/Level.

[Xenor]

Jobs won't have levels and as such won't need to be leveled up. Jobs are an advanced form of the class that unlocks them. So for example purposes, a level 50 Gladiator would be a level 50 Paladin. (Example only!)

Also we can confirm that we'll be changing the term "ranks" (as in rank 50 Pugilist) to "levels" (as in level 50 Pugilist) along with the removal of the physical level. We'll also be changing skill points to experience points.

In summation:
Rank > Level
Skill points > Experience points

Any info on what's happening with CON? Is it going to be BLM or WHM? It makes no sense to just give it one of those.

[elreed]

Jobs won't have levels and as such won't need to be leveled up. Jobs are an advanced form of the class that unlocks them. So for example purposes, a level 50 Gladiator would be a level 50 Paladin. (Example only!)

Also we can confirm that we'll be changing the term "ranks" (as in rank 50 Pugilist) to "levels" (as in level 50 Pugilist) along with the removal of the physical level. We'll also be changing skill points to experience points.

In summation:
Rank > Level
Skill points > Experience points

wheres the long term goal?
if im 50 already? i wont have to do anything just the quest to unlock them? in FF tactics and FF XI if you had unlocked a job you had to start from level one, that was a good way to keep people busy and interested, and helped the new content to be fresh a longer time, if you leave things like that you wont be able to hold ppl's busy with new content because everyone will eat it as soon as its out. Its not that bad to be leveling jobs/classes you have to go to certain known areas and then when you're at the correct level you can move to those new areas with your new jobs excited.

just my op.

[Jaide]

I would guess that jobs will be unlockable at level 30. That's the targeted level for the lower level dungeons and also happens to be the level at which you can unlock advanced jobs in FFXI.

Personally I'm going to miss having the extra jobs to level up like we did in FFXI, but the way they are doing this in XIV makes sense. I wouldn't have played XI nearly as long as I did if the advanced jobs were merely extensions of the originals though. I was one of those who leveled everything up to at least 30 over the years.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Those were jobs from FFI.

Yes I know they are jobs in classic FF, what I am saying is according to your exemples, thief would become ninja and monk would become master.

In FFXIV CLASS -> JOBS, so Thief and Monk in your exemple would need to be classes, and they are not, they are not in other FF and they are not in FFXIV, they might be Jobs (Pug -> Monk) or jobs that will come later, but they are not classes as of right now.