Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

[Hitome]

people like you the one make a MMO feel like a job and from your example too feel like it
where the enjoy?where the fun?
those toxic community will said they got no time to play bec of job or real life so why play MMO in first place?to enjoy or to make it feel like job?

The fun is in accomplishing things with people who share the same mentality I do: put pride into your job and understand you are playing with 7 other players so come best prepared as you can be. When you begin to think that inconveniencing 7 other players is OK, you become the problem.

toxic community is the one that make requirement to watch video or get kick, i watch video HM ifrit and i die alot because those strategy not work for me, well thanks to some understanding japanese and random stranger for not give up, now i can do it easily

Never have I seen someone say "watch a video or get kicked".

toxic community the one that use duty routlet/duty finder but get angry to newbies or people watch cutscene + with vote abandon make it worse, i already seen this,newbies get kick when he said new to dungeon

Already said you should leave learning to DF groups.

toxic community never try to teach anything to newbies,answer their question or even give suggestion about their gear/class. do you guys ever bother read someone shout ask this and that or even try help random people how to improve their class/job
toxic community cant accept any single mess up and want everyone perfect. this is normal in duty finder now...yeah normal

A toxic community is one where a majority of players do not do their research and then complain about fights being too difficult. Toxic and entitled.

the biggest thing is, those who depend on watch video mostly unable make plan B in raid. easy example at Atomos in CT which need 4 people on pedestal/switch. what happen is there 4 melee dps?or 1 range 3 melee? 8 out of 10 quit, emo,mad and vote kick

It's too bad you have no proof of this.

Also, people who watch a video are more prepared than someone going in blind.

yeahhh you not really understand

It's perhaps you that doesn't understand what a MMO is. You are playing with other people. Do your part so everyone else can do theirs.

And how much satisfaction do YOU get when you complete a single player RPG exactly how it's written step by step from a strategy guide and looking up GameFAQs your first time through? ............. If your greatest sense of achievement is from doing that, just try playing a new single player RPG WITHOUT help once.

My gameplay in a single player RPG does not affect 7 other people. Poor analogy but nice try with the fallacious reasoning.

On the topic of watching videos, I've never watched one yet either. I think someone is more likely to absorb feedback and correct mistakes when they don't have a skewed idea of what to expect, let alone if something goes out of order from what you think you "remember" from the video. Not to mention if a fight is explained real-time, anyone can put in THEIR two cents or confirm so that everyone is on the same wavelength and the fight goes smoothly.

K try that when you get to Twin and let me know how it works for you.

I was just in a Thornmarch fight with 3 brand new DPS (never saw the fight before) and 1 new tank. We took 5 minutes to rundown how the fight went and beat it the first time. It was my ONLY win out of about 8 King Mog fights today in DF. Some might say it's not a challenging fight anymore, but why do so many DFs usually fail it then? A little communication goes WAYYYYY further than any video ever will, plus you might even make some new friends.

Oh it's story time is it?

Earlier tonight on my alt, Hito Yu, I was running turn 4 with a PF group that required members to be experienced. Despite the requirement, we discussed strategy extensively before we engaged. I actually told people what to expect, what was coming, how to deal with it, where we should stand, etc.

You'll never guess what happened. The tank had no clue where the first soldier/knight dropped (something you can easily pick up from a video), had no idea the dreadknoughts cleaved (something you could observe from a video), the BLMs had no idea to AoE the double rook phase and when they did AoE, didn't know to sit in the middle because crap runs to you when you pull aggro you know, and no one knew what was coming when a soldier/knight/rook all dropped down on them. It was a complete surprise. After wiping, they asked, "What was that phase? I've never seen it/didn't know how to deal with it." after I had asked them if they knew what to expect on all phases where most of them said, "Of course." or "I've been clearing this for 7 weeks."

Hmm how could someone figure all this out..right: watch a video of the entire fight or read a text-based strategy guide.

This is the only time I've ever wiped on T4 ever since learning it 4 and a half months ago.

Spoken like someone who's never failed in their life. Congratulations on a luxurious upbringing.

Emphasis is not on failure but on people too stubborn to use resources available to them. Thought that post was pretty clear with its point.