Gridania Vs. Ishagard. Who won?

[Shai]

If you haven't already, try posting this in the Quest section of the forum.

People there actually read the dialogue and think about the implications.
I've seen you there before (and I haven't checked it in days) so maybe you posted this there already.

You should know the typical crowd the General Discussion will descend upon your threads.

[Shai]

By the way, Ishgard's dragoons are not dragoons in the FF sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragoon

It just means mounted infantry, FF added a new spin to it because of the oh-so-clever similarity with the word 'dragon' I guess.
The lore is pretty lacking right now, like most of the game it feels rushed and skimmed over, which baffles me considering how much lore (and even more so in its expansions) FFXI had. No idea what the hell Tanaka was thinking.

They may be mounted, but they are also Dragon-slaying Knights.
Sounds pretty much like the FF spin on the word.
Most Dragoons are Dragon-lovers not haters, but some are Dragoon for no real reason (Kain).

[Catapult]

coerthas and ishgard are to the West of Gridania. Further West is what -seems- to be the land of the dragons (dravania) as well as what i'm assuming is either a city or a ruined city (shariavan).

I believe that is actually Sharlayan, the city that Thancred, Y'shtola & the other two are from (names eluding me), who are present in the Rank 1/8/15/46 quests (the last of which I'm itching to play) and seem very curious about the goings-on in the rest of Eorzea. This could in turn add yet another dimension to plot and events.

[Azurymber]

I believe that is actually Sharlayan, the city that Thancred, Y'shtola & the other two are from (names eluding me), who are present in the Rank 1/8/15/46 quests (the last of which I'm itching to play) and seem very curious about the goings-on in the rest of Eorzea. This could in turn add yet another dimension to plot and events.

Your right, it should be sharLavan not shariavan but theres a v not a y on the map at least.

[Xmbei]

I am not trolling or anything of the sort.... but...

Ishgard is a good guy... it will be... most likely... XIV's version of Jueno.... They did not attack Gridania.... the ones that attacked gridania and everyone else is as it has been said sporatically in this topic... these armored people you talk about belong to Garland Empire... where everyone on here is getting these 2 places confused is beyond me but... the conflict is always coming from the East, and Ishgard is from the west...

[Catapult]

I am not trolling or anything of the sort.... but...

Ishgard is a good guy... it will be... most likely... XIV's version of Jueno.... They did not attack Gridania.... the ones that attacked gridania and everyone else is as it has been said sporatically in this topic... these armored people you talk about belong to Garland Empire... where everyone on here is getting these 2 places confused is beyond me but... the conflict is always coming from the East, and Ishgard is from the west...

True, but we have had it iterated to us that the Empire is not the real threat, which we are being distracted from.

I expect this to be complicated.

[Renegade]

The way I understood it was all the city states used to fight amongst themselves for money, power, etc. but that all changed when Ala Mhigo was crushed by the the Garleans. Back then Ala Mhigo was supposed to be the strongest of the city states. Now eveyones like well dang guess we better beef up and quite fighting each other so we can work to together when the full invasion happens.

So ya they are all good guys now, but in the past they have had thier differences.

[Xmbei]

yes, true... but the events people are talking about is the Empire not Ishgard...

[Renegade]

I thought we were still talking about battle of Dragonfall which I assumed was just an old conflict between Ishgard and Gridania before the Garlean thing started up. Man why can't they give us dates in the dialogue lol.

[Xmbei]

lol true, but Some people were saying the armored people in r46 mission were Ishgardian... when in fact they are from the Empire....