If you didn't start PvP before, then don't start ever?

[Braxy]

Omni has it right with "entitlement." That's all I gotta say... coming into lv50 pvp in AF1 and lv30/40 items is stupid, and your team has little-to-no chance of winning against decently intelligent opponents.

[Quackley]

They deserve it.

I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to point it out for you to realize that saying they deserve it/raging at people for really any reason (like wearing bad gear), makes you as bad, if not worse than them.

In the meantime, it's funny to see you justify being a jerk at least. :3

I think you also need to realize that most players (especially casual ones) make choices based on what they want to do, and that you and the rest of your team don't really matter to them.
Not that that makes it okay to be a jerk to them either, but heyyyyyyy, you know ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[Braxy]

And how many times do we need to point that before that "rage" comes out, these people are told very nicely and considerately their gear is not appropriate for Lv50 pvp, and that they should go try 30s and 40s instead to farm up enough points for some i70 gear... I don't appreciate that someone's response to me was "Right, because I'm sure you did that LOLOL," and when I explain to them that actually, I did do that for a great deal of the points farming, they call me a liar.

It's not fair to those of us that did it the "hard way" and got gear and learned to play in 40s before moving up to 50s to be stuck on a team with people who couldn't care less. They just want their 20 exp and then they can move onto the next one.

On the same note, I just ran into a i90 PVE WHM who does NOT suck and can actually stay alive long enough for the team to do some serious damage. Kudos to him. If everyone was like that, this wouldn't be an issue.

[Quackley]

Mmkay, so they're told multiple times, and that suddenly makes it okay to berate them.
Gotcha.

Thanks for clearing this up.

If this really bothers people enough to start getting legitimately angry, I don't know how they deal with people intentionally trolling or anything like that.
Like doesn't your blood pressure explode eventually? :3

[Onji_T]

Just remember, anything you do now to rank up will be easier to do later. The end

[Spyrit]

They still raging on people in 50s? Guess what which ever yields you the fastest queue, go for it, because it's just a grind, win or loose you still get the same rewards. Fastest queues are the most optimal, there is no ladder which these people seem to think they are competing for.

[omniwaink]

Mmkay, so they're told multiple times, they reply that they don't care whether they win or lose, and that suddenly makes it okay to berate them.

*Fixed for ya

[Spyrit]

*Fixed for ya

The ToS states clearly you can't harass other players, under no circumstances, you are breaking the rules you agreed to. But the players you harass do have the right to report you for harassing them. You get a warning that doesn't ever come off, for your duration of playtime in ffxiv, you get reported twice you get a suspension, third time your account is done, trust me se has a very serious policy in regards to harassment. My suggestion is to make a 3 man or 4 man, and pug as little as possible. So people that are grinding can continue to do so in peace, we want to have fun in unranked pvp. On the bright side SE don't do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssU9IvLLRI any more.

I would ask a GM to go into 50 cap in ilvl 55 pvp gear and see it for themselves.

[Quackley]

*Fixed for ya, but it's still not okay

I got your back too buddy <3

I'm not gonna sit here and report people for anything, I don't think anybody on the internet could really get me offended, at least not in this game.
But it still makes you look like a jerk, and I'm pretty sure I would start screwing around in matches a lot more when I got the chance. :3

[Spyrit]

I got your back too buddy <3

I'm not gonna sit here and report people for anything, I don't think anybody on the internet could really get me offended, at least not in this game.
But it still makes you look like a jerk, and I'm pretty sure I would start screwing around in matches a lot more when I got the chance. :3

The trouble is their behavior is going to lead to people not wanting to pvp at all, so the queues will get even longer.