Making Coil T1-5 easier sure, removing weekly lockout, lol wut?

[Hairo]

Progression? No I don't understand. One person can take months grinding out i90 then next update the guy behind you who just hit 50 can grind out the same set in 2 days and now you are both at minimal ilvl to have a shot at turn 6.

I don't see what progressed it seems more like a reset to me.

But they won't, will they! just by having gear doesn't mean you have downed turns 1-5; alot of people already have ilvl90 gear and have never even stepped in to coil?!

its not about who's better. its about playstyle. and unfortunately this game is just catering towards one side of the spectrum.

No what they are doing is sticking to their originally intent; new hard content for people that want the hard stuff and nerfing the old content to please the masses.

[Autymnfyres]

In 2 years you want people to have 20 relevant raids to run, right? Such that they can be certain they will NEVER catch up to top tier people, ever, even if they play no-life?

Many good points in your post SchalaZeal. I have to take pardon with the quote though. Why? Why must new people who enter the game later after the first months be given, yes given, a la carte through all levels up to cap? What is the reasoning? Why do they not want to DO THE CONTENT? Why can they not do that content for the most part in companies such as you are a member of? Other new people forming up to explore, level up and understand their jobs/classes? A help/leg up near the cap for instance seems reasonable, but not completely negating 95% of all content in early game.



Why? Again, I don't get it, though I do see there are people who want it. "It" being --- oh, I want to play with my friends, I'll sub and zoom up to cap cuz otherwise it won't be any fun. I MUST be at endgame immediately---no, no, no not going to go through early content. Why? Just a waste of my time. The game BEGINS at cap, and I am paying for instantaneous gratification. I am not an mmo player who is making the choice to PLAY the game, I'm jumping in, hopefully at the endgame to START playing the game with my buds".

I have started games in beta, at early launches, and years after they began. Most mmo's do provide a way to go back and enjoy old content/play with new players. EQ II did it, and a number of other games by providing incentive for capped players to 'help' newer players just like FFXIV ARR ALREADY has in place with the roulette/tomes etc.

Lets play the game. Choices. Design and updates do NOT have to absolutely provide a magic port to cap. It is still new to that new player. Let them play the game; not warp to its end immediately.

[Hairo]

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I think the majority understand what your saying but the higher you raise a level, your introduce a barrier of entry to a beginner. In FFXIV gear is king and there is a shit load of gear checks for alot of fights.

If you start to alienate the new players and make it difficult for them to join in on the "fun" aspects of the game, the game will eventually die. This is one of the main reasons games like WoW have existed for so long and still making masses of profit.

[Soylent]

Do you people know that most FCs clear T1-4 in under 40 mins??? People will be I90 in a DAY of farming

I fail to see the problem, just like I fail to see the problem with being able to get ilvl70 in a few days right now. It'll no longer be the best gear available at that point.

Okay have fun with end game being full of about 90% scrubs and not being able to tell whos remotely decent

You're saying this like it's any different today. As for being able to tell who's decent there are ways to do that that shall not be mentioned here.

[Kluya15]

Okay have fun with end game being full of about 90% scrubs and not being able to tell whos remotely decent

Welcome to every MMO....well...ever. Seriously, stop panicking over nothing.

[Kluya15]

Progression? No I don't understand. One person can take months grinding out i90 then next update the guy behind you who just hit 50 can grind out the same set in 2 days and now you are both at minimal ilvl to have a shot at turn 6.

I don't see what progressed it seems more like a reset to me.

The beauty of it will be seeing people in ilvl130 gear still wiping to Titan cause if you can't dodge now, you won't dodge then.

[Fyce]

its not about who's better. its about playstyle. and unfortunately this game is just catering towards one side of the spectrum.

Can you please enlighten your audience a bit more about this, and tell us why are you playing a game that doesn't seem to suit your playstyle?

Most people play a game by choice, having considered its core design and target. They will ask themselves "is this game for me? Will it fulfill my needs and expectations?".
Clearly, FFXIV doesn't seem to fulfill yours. FFXIV isn't a game made especially for elitist/hardcore player... yet, you are here, saying loud and clear that you are one of those.
Plus, you are complaining here, even if you already know that you are a part of the minority and that FFXIV won't change for you because of this particular reason (minority), and because it wasn't designed like this in the first place.

So... yeah. I only see a few cases why that is. You are either a masochist, or someone is currently threatening you to keep playing a game which wasn't made for you, or you are extremely naive and filled with dreams that won't become reality.
Please, tell us more. It's hard to understand people like you, making illogical decisions and sticking to it.

[nocturnal84]

Can you please enlighten your audience a bit more about this, and tell us why are you playing a game that doesn't seem to suit your playstyle?

Most people play a game by choice, having considered its core design and target. They will ask themselves "is this game for me? Will it fulfill my needs and expectations?".
Clearly, FFXIV doesn't seem to fulfill yours. FFXIV isn't a game made especially for elitist/hardcore player... yet, you are here, saying loud and clear that you are one of those.
Plus, you are complaining here, even if you already know that you are a part of the minority and that FFXIV won't change for you .

These people are quitting they are just putting in their 2 cents before they leave

[Arkune]

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You are not wrong but WoW atleast did something different to SE (when we talk about raids) they never got rid of the weekly lockouts.

WoW: (Ilevel Numbers are examples to make it easier to understand)

Heroic Dungeons - Ilevel 300
Raid 1 - Ilevel 310
Raid 2 - Ilevel 320
Raid 3 - Ilevel 330
Raid 4 - Ilevel 340

Every single Raid is required to do if you want to get acces to do the next Higher Tiers and also Needs a certain averange Ilevel to get acces aswell, also all this raids have weekly lockouts and None of them got "gimped" and got rid of the weekly lockouts aswell, and it works fine. (when i see the numbers of subbings from WoW)

How could it look in ARR:

1) Dungeons for Ilevel 70, required to do...

2) Crystal Tower for Ilevel 80, required to do either....

3) Heroic Dungeons for Mythology Gear (casual Way) ilevel 90 or Binding Coil of Bahamut (T1-T5) for Ilevel 90, required to do....

4) Binding Coil of Bahamut (T6-T9) for Ilevel 100, required to do.... etc... until the first Level cap is increased.


How is it currently:

Dungeons to Farm Ilevel 70, required to do....
Binding Coil of Bahamut T1-T5

or Dungeons to Farm Ilevel 90, required to do....
Binding Coil of Bahamuts T6-T9

Its a question of Balancing (ilevel Requirment, Mission Status, etc) to get the acces to the lastest Tiers of Raids.

[Nekodar]

How is it currently:

Dungeons to Farm Ilevel 70, required to do....
Binding Coil of Bahamut T1-T5

or Dungeons to Farm Ilevel 90, required to do....
Binding Coil of Bahamuts T6-T9

Its a question of Balancing (ilevel Requirment, Mission Status, etc) to get the acces to the lastest Tiers of Raids.

You are required to do T1-T5 (at the minimum T5) in order to gain access to T6.

And most people are going to need to do CT mixed in with farming myth tomes to be able to go through T1-T5.