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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    DRG is much stronger than you realize OP.

    1. DRG is actually second or third best DPS in ideal conditions against single target situations, and in real fights it carries over well unlike MNK/BLM who depending on the fight can lose a lot of their effectiveness.
    2. DRG is great in dungeons, their AoE is very strong, and their multi-DoTs are extremely worthwhile.
    3. DRG rapes adds, badly. Use Elusive Jump or Spineshatter Dive to get to the opponent if being melee has you getting beat by ranged, and when you're there, between all the off-GCD attacks and B4B's effectiveness during its duration, DRG can be #1 in burst.
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  2. #12
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    Warrlordd's Avatar
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    Genji Xiii
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoOcelot View Post
    in a shorter time where it takes me a full rotation to equal their output!
    So you agree then, that your output equals theirs? Your argument lost all its weight within 3 sentences. You rock sir, DRG is awesome i main one. 300+ DPS very competitive DPS class and you buff your BRD DPS. I like buffs but you're being silly.
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  3. #13
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    And this is why SE nerfs stuff. People who fail to read tooltips and need video's for every single rotation...

    I hope this thread illuminates some stuff for you OP. It's pretty clear you're gimping yourself.
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  4. #14
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    Zakard Evans
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    im ilvl90 monk and also have a DRG friend ilvl90 and i can tell you that DRG dmg is fine.with the 2.1 buff,DRG dps is about the same as MNK now.
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  5. #15
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    DRG is in theory only slightly under MNK, however fight mechanics pretty much conspire to make all but the luckiest AND most prediction-savvy MNKs lose GL3 which hurts them considerably. They both have their flexibility and weaknesses. DRG is certainly not the "weakest" DPS job.
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  6. #16
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    Euri Bisaine
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    The people you were playing with had better weapons than an Ifrit's weapon I'll guess.

    Weapons are the biggest source of damage, much more so than your other gear. Start saving your myth also, you are wasting it on armor slots when you should be holding onto at least 900 myth to +1 your relic when you get it. Do that and you'll change your opinion I'd bet.
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  7. #17
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Dragoon is already one of the top and most bursty single-target DPS alongside BLM... I wouldn't mind seeing some minor, primarily stylistic buffs, but they're are not under-powered. You are likely under-experienced, and much less geared than those around you. In fights like Titan EM, there isn't actually any time where you need to stop dpsing, if you time things correctly, unlike casters who will have to move. You also have the ability to build up combos in preparation for mechanics like Gaols and Conflaguration where BLM and BRD must rely on procs (huge for BLM, but a mere auto-400ish damage for Bard's Straighter Shot). Bard's Barrage can outdo the affect of your CD only in the short term, and an ideally placed DRG Blood for Blood is a huge amount of damage.

    Suggested changes, though not DRG-specific:
    (1) Allow Skill Speed to affect off-GCDs, have a half or de-exponential effect on animation times (as 2.5 GCD decreases to 2, a 2-second animation decreases to 1.8 (rather than 1.6)), and a half-effect on Invigorate.
    (2) Increase Fracture potency by 5, and increase TP cost to balance, making it a real difference in short-term dps, yet still TP-efficiency equal or less in the long-term; OR decrease Fracture TP cost by 10.

    These two are slightly tied, especially for Dragoon. Increased Skill Speed usage means increased ability to place Fracture without potentially losing a off-GCD. The changes within Skill Speed also slightly favor DRG over MNK, except for the animation time reduction, due to the fact that it has slightly more off-GCDs, which previously would be affected by all stats *except* Skill Speed and would now be more universally affected (to the same %dps increase, by SS as well), and because Monk still has to cope with its GL stack TP-drain speed and a lesser Invigorate. I do not find this unfair however, seeing as even relatively minor amounts of Skill Speed for Monk allow a new rotation that provides a noticeable dps increase. These changes would still do incredibly little to Bard dps; I think it's still impossible, even if one did wish to be as wasteful as to go all Skill Speed, to be able to fit in an extra Heavy Shot per DoT reapplication.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-30-2014 at 02:52 PM.

  8. #18
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kicoe View Post
    I like tiny kittens.
    this quote is the most intelligent post in this entire topic.

    i hope you all follow this person's example and like tiny kittens.


    also lol @OP
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  9. #19
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    Pots Talos
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Last I checked our FC statics DRG was doing 380+ DPS. Sure boost them further
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Ruri Valeth
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I am usually top or 2nd dps as drg for most fights. Maybe people need to learn how to play the job before requesting it to be buffed. /rant
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