Making Coil T1-5 easier sure, removing weekly lockout, lol wut?

[Axidrain]

It's like he's never played an MMO before.

... Should I still be upset that the Bonereaver's Edge I got from our first Ragnaros kill isn't "da best" anymore? I mean, I know that was like a friggin decade ago but c'mon dude. We killed Ragnaros. I spent like all my DKP on that badboy I deserve to be the best! THE BEST! DO YOU HEAR ME!? THE BEST O_O.

its like he's never played an mmo before. should i be grateful that SE is throttling my game progress with lockouts? :3

[Abigs]

remove the lockout but dont nerf the content.. t1-t4 is already easy as is.. but more importantly, how could SE introduce harder mechanics if people aren't even used to the 'average' level of mechanics?

[Senfei]

its like he's never played an mmo before. should i be grateful that SE is throttling my game progress with lockouts? :3

Lockouts are a completely different animal than gear scaling up over time, which is inevitable. Unless of course you want sideways progression... with our, what, 4 stats that matter? Yeah bruh, I totally want that ilvl90 PLD gear with those sick mind and piety boosts, I can like, cure for 300 now instead of 200... and twice more than I used to before running out of MP. Bruh. Great Expansion.

[Axidrain]

Lockouts are a completely different animal than gear scaling up over time, which is inevitable. Unless of course you want sideways progression... with our, what, 4 stats that matter? Yeah bruh, I totally want that ilvl90 PLD gear with those sick mind and piety boosts, I can like, cure for 300 now instead of 200... and twice more than I used to before running out of MP. Bruh. Great Expansion.

im pretty sure this thread was about the lockouts being removed instead of vertical vs horizontal progression.

[Senfei]

I was referring to the guy who is freaking out about people being able to put turn 1-5 on "farm mode", and assuming this was because his precious i90 gear atm will soon be devalued. Hence my original post making fun of that by saying an item I fought for 10 years ago should totally still be awesome.

Why else would you be upset about this? Anyway, I think we just misunderstood eachother.

[astrobearthe2nd]

if they remove the locks (coil/myth) come next patch then this game is definitely not for me. unless they don't apply any locks on the new content as well, then that would be a different story. otherwise i can just unsub for 3 months come back the next patch and catchup within a week. dumb it down more SE. dumb it down more lol

you already know SE is gonna uncap myth and going to cap the new tomes.so please oh please leave now and never come back.

[SchalaZeal]

I don't understand some people.

- people cry foul over coils weekly lock out of each turn. It gets changed with no lockouts period and people cry foul still?

It's the "I got treated shitty, why would they have it easier than me??? Young ones, all sissies!!" kinda deal. That shows in thoughts like "When I was a young lad, I'd get beaten up, and it forged character. No one talked about bullying or intimidation, it was the good days..."

[Ryios]

So basically, the game is doomed to only ever have one relevant raid to run.

People starting the game a year from now will

1. Level to 50 in a week
2. Run CT 10 times for full Darklight and IL 80 Gear (no need to dungeon grind)
3. Run 1-4, use echo to kill 5
4. And bam there in the top tier raid, and they do that till lockout and there done for the week in 1 day again.

This game should be pushing to have all the content be relevant not kill it with the next update and kill that with the next update etc.... I hated that about wow. So many beautiful and good expansions to run that people never got to see.

See the problem isn't that new people can't do the old content, its that there won't be anyone to do it with them. Wow Had the same problem. I Got into wow during WOTLK. I wanted to do some BCB Content.... But everyone raided wotlk content and didn't touch bcb content. As such I never got to see BCB until I got all the way through WOTLK and we were bored so we wen't back and 5 manned some BCB 25 mans...

[SchalaZeal]

So basically, the game is doomed to only ever have one relevant raid to run.

In 2 years you want people to have 20 relevant raids to run, right? Such that they can be certain they will NEVER catch up to top tier people, ever, even if they play no-life?

People who would catch up to top-tier in a week are top-tier themselves. And with a huge amount of time to play, to boot.

and they do that till lockout and there done for the week in 1 day again.

It's too bad you don't play a game to have fun. I login and do stuff with my FC. I don't do pugs, and I don't look for elite groups that could carry me, even though I probably have the ilv (and the role: healer) to be welcomed. I ONLY do stuff with my FC. I do CT with the FC. I do primals with the FC. I do coil with the FC. No one from FC? Then I'm crafting or something, but not running stuff.

And that's how you manage to login more than 2 hours a week. You actually enjoy the social aspect, and also play for other stuff than pure progression. If I wanted to be graded/approved/praised for being good, I'd go to school.

Disclaimer: I play over 60 hours a week average. I haven't beaten Turn 4 yet. I took until mid November to get my relic (even though I started the first day of open beta and played every single day). I haven't beaten Garuda EX yet either. I haven't tried Ultima HM. I did beat Moggle pre-nerf, but don't consider it a shame that it was nerfed. I got four of my crafts to 50 before my Arcanist. And I didn't go in coil for 4 weeks while I had it unlocked, because the FC was having issues getting a full group originally (now we're having 2 groups, but originally we had 6 people maybe, and if 3 didn't show up, it was called off). I wouldn't run it with a pug, even for loot. The entire fun is running with people you might develop a certain bond with.

[Axidrain]

you already know SE is gonna uncap myth and going to cap the new tomes.so please oh please leave now and never come back.

uhuh. u dont even understand that this game is heading towards the wrong direction. play on. u'll get it soon enough.

In 2 years you want people to have 20 relevant raids to run, right? Such that they can be certain they will NEVER catch up to top tier people, ever, even if they play no-life?

People who would catch up to top-tier in a week are top-tier themselves. And with a huge amount of time to play, to boot.



It's too bad you don't play a game to have fun. I login and do stuff with my FC. I don't do pugs, and I don't look for elite groups that could carry me, even though I probably have the ilv (and the role: healer) to be welcomed. I ONLY do stuff with my FC. I do CT with the FC. I do primals with the FC. I do coil with the FC. No one from FC? Then I'm crafting or something, but not running stuff.

And that's how you manage to login more than 2 hours a week. You actually enjoy the social aspect, and also play for other stuff than pure progression. If I wanted to be graded/approved/praised for being good, I'd go to school.

u dont need to spend 24 hours a day to cap everything in a week for this game. lol