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    WTB CT Alliance Vote-Kick

    I have been in quite a few CT's where an entire Alliance joined as a pre made to troll. On Monday one alliance would face pull then wait until a tank took agro and the whole alliance ran out of room leaving two alliances to clear the trash. This happened several times before the Vote-Abandon.

    Vote-Abandon works, but the DPS is really screwed over. They wait 45 min to get in, and waste another 10 to 30 minutes on the fails, and re queue again for 45 minutes. I do not think this would be abused as you would have 16 players in control of another Alliances fate.

    As you add more raids I feel the problem will continually grow until addressed.
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    As I proposed in my thread, there needs to be the ability to form all three alliances and queue after they're fully set up. Let me get 23 other players together who I know that are on the same server as myself. Since I can't trust strangers in a PUG group, Square needs to hand over control to the players and allow for either Same server queues or the ability to set up all three alliances before entering the instance.

    And when you consider that it's more fun to play with friends, the absence of this option is kind of just a bummer. Larger FC runs of CT can't happen until this feature is implemented. ):
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    Form 3 eight man groups, Que German during German off time = GG
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    I appologize I was unaware that you had already brought this concern up. I will consider my post a duplicate and defer to yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordfurious View Post
    I appologize I was unaware that you had already brought this concern up. I will consider my post a duplicate and defer to yours.
    No dude, don't do that, your idea is different from mine and is just as meant to be discussed as the stuff I bought up so don't can your thread. D:

    I was merely suggesting that the idea would work but would seriously need some control for it to not be completely abused and frankly, a simple timer that prevent frequent usage of it would not be enough unfortunately.
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    This proposed feature could just as easily backfire on you OP. It's already bad enough people are spamming Vote Abandon. The vote kicking for individuals is already abused. Now imagine troll groups with the power to potentially kick an entire alliance that isn't their own?

    As much as I detest the trolling, douchebaggery, epeen stroking, etc in CT. Your idea would just add another tool to potentially punish 8 players that haven't done anything. For your idea to work, the vote system would at least need to require the consensus of all 16 players from the other two groups voting off/out the third and limited to a one time use per CT run.
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    Last edited by mythicrose; 01-30-2014 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    As much as I detest the trolling, douchebaggery, epeen stroking, etc in CT. Your idea would just add another tool to potentially punish 8 players that haven't done anything. For your idea to work, the vote system would at least need to require the consensus of all 16 players from the other two groups voting off/out the third and limited to a one time use per CT run.
    With some more fail safes this could potentially work and we could have this used properly. Being that MOST of these troll groups are either concentrated in ONE group and rarely can succeed on a small scale, this would mean trolls across separate alliances, should they still exist AFTER the Alliance Kick, wouldn't be able to influence the group to the intensity they had prior to the troll alliance being booted from the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    This proposed feature could just as easily backfire on you OP. It's already bad enough people are spamming Vote Abandon. The vote kicking for individuals is already abused. Now imagine troll groups with the power to potentially kick an entire alliance that isn't their own?

    For your idea to work, the vote system would at least need to require the consensus of all 16 players from the other two groups voting off/out the third and limited to a one time use per CT run.
    I do not believe that would backfire. I would rather see vote-abandon eliminated. You can vote kick one member and all leave without penalty. In its place add Alliance vote-kick. When one member of an Alliance is trolling, and that Alliance refuses to remove that one player, Alliance-Vote-Kick would come in handy. I really doubt 16 players will punish 8 as you suggest. They are on 2 different alliances, and would not know each other.
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    The reason vote abandon was put in because people kept complaining about how they were forced to eat a 30 minute penalty if they or the group wanted to quit a quest.
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    Having this function requires a lot more attention to fine detail. Implementing a simple vote to kick an entire alliance could mean a group getting kicked because one or more entry healers + tanks derped. You could argue that this is fault of the group itself, but it would not be the opinion other groups share.

    Unfortunately, I can't see how this function could benefit both entry and geared players symbiotically. In fact, I can see this being the primary reason for the use of this function.
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