Titan-egi and Tanks?

[Fayto]

It's just a waste of time. I know some Summoners do it to have Titan grab one mob off of the tank during dungeons, to lessen damage the tank is receiving, but it very rarely compensates for the dive in DPS the Summoner is inflicting on themselves by not having Garuda out.

If the tank is getting bodied, or needs help with hate, at that point the Titan idea can be pitched. But if you go in with it, and refuse to even give the tank a chance, then yeah, they'll probably just leave. Tanks get instant queues pretty much across the board, and most are well aware of this fact. You may find it a bit prima donna, but it is what it is.

Off topic but is Ifrit really that outclassed by Garuda. Seems in a dungeon where he is safe he would have a place.

Also as everyone stated, Titan is a headache to the party with it's lower DPS and higher enmity generation.

[Espon]

Off topic but is Ifrit really that outclassed by Garuda. Seems in a dungeon where he is safe he would have a place.

Also as everyone stated, Titan is a headache to the party with it's lower DPS and higher enmity generation.

Extending DoT durations beats anything Ifrit can do. Plus he screws up stun diminishing returns.

[Fadigre]

Off topic but is Ifrit really that outclassed by Garuda. Seems in a dungeon where he is safe he would have a place.

Also as everyone stated, Titan is a headache to the party with it's lower DPS and higher enmity generation.

I'm told he is because Garuda gets 5 attacks in to Ifrit's 4.
But Ifrit uses both higher potency abilities and auto attacks at 100 potency.

I always use him when doing things like dailies but I'm not really sure what's actually better.
I used to extend my DoTs then swiftcast Ifrit during fights that required a lot of burst but unsure now as it uses part of a GCD.

Regarding Titan, people have been using tank pets in dungeons since day one. Topaz Carbuncle used to be the bane of me.
It's just player ignorance.

[Syrellaris]

Well, titan is the weakest egi in terms of DPS, so it's just a waste, and in terms of hate, titan can't keep enough hate to tank a mob effectively, as smn after a full rotation i'll have the mob on me and titan will be chasing it while i kite.

Even soloing in open world i only use titan when i'm too lazy to kite.

Funny, I have a complete different experience with Titan-Egi. I can go full out and don't have to worry about Titan Egi loosing aggro on Fate bosses or solo groups of trash mobs. Hell, I've used him to tank a hard mode dungeon boss here and there, when we had no tank.
It literally comes down to using his skills correctly and the pet buffs. He however does not replace a good player tank though.

[Zfz]

OP's situation is like having a SMN or BLM throwing Cure on the tank whenever the tank is at 80%, and when you (WHM) tell them they don't have to do it, you've got it under control, they reply "lol" and keep doing it.

Some WHM just go, okay, if you love to heal, I'll do DD. Just like some tanks will say, okay, if you love Titan so much I'll give him whatever target he's hitting.

Personally I have no problem with the Titan if it's sent to the kill priority. It just means the SMN need to rethink a lot of stuff. And when the Titan is always sent to secondary target, I let it have it's way and simply ignore that target until the Egi is dead somehow.

They're not that big of an annoyance compared to a Topaz in really low level dungeons. In that situation the Topaz is potentially more irritating than any Titan Egi could every be.

[alhandra]

using titan egi when in a pt with a tank is not only rude but incredibly dumb

[Pseudopsia]

When I'm tanking I hate tank pets: Titan or Topaz carby.

As a tank my first reaction when a monster moves off me is to get it back. So I'm constantly fighting for aggro with the tank pets. I also know the battle will last longer.

Knock back pets are somewhat annoying, however no where close to tank pets.

[Synapse]

Titan Egil is for solo outside world, it have really no purpose in dungeon or primal battle. Now a day even a bad tank can simple spam flash or overpower and can hold hate well on group of mobs in dungeon

Not exactly, Titan pet is not suitable in a traditional party.

I have completed every dungeon up to AK with Titan as tank, but the party set up has to vary. Some dungeon will require two Titans, and some will be all summoners.

*tho it maybe be hard to believe, but i was one of the earliest person to do the All SMN WP.

But in a DF or a traditional party set up, Titan is only for emergency.

[Synapse]

Well, titan is the weakest egi in terms of DPS, so it's just a waste, and in terms of hate, titan can't keep enough hate to tank a mob effectively, as smn after a full rotation i'll have the mob on me and titan will be chasing it while i kite.

Even soloing in open world i only use titan when i'm too lazy to kite.

Im not sure which game you playing, but Titan Hate generation is equal to above average PLD(and gets stronger ever passing sec), it can hold hate not from its dps but it has innate hate generator (like Chocobo tank but stronger). I seen it tank through multiple flares.

Only problem is that it needs to few sec longer to build hate, once it established it, its unmovable.

And since also Titan and other primal generally take less damage from any mob mechanics(plumes etc), they are best damage mitigators as well.

I love to solo on smn, but sadly this world does not have strong enemies or dungeon that i can solo. Oh please SE let me solo dungeon!

[SummonerSenah]

If you're having problems with pet knockback, that's also an issue with the summoner. It means they probably set their pet to "sic" instead of "obey."

I have a friend who just started as an arcanist and I told him to use Emerald Carbuncle in dungeons so that he can do more DPS.