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    kayuwoody's Avatar
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    Kayu Boo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    Really not sure how your inability to execute a completely valid strat somehow makes him the "n00b"...
    Considering the ilvl requirement to DF this fight, I'm convinced the 3 way pull is the way the fight was designed to be done. It is simply superior to MrHappy's method in that it removes most of the points of failure out of the equation. MrHappy's method is valid, but relies on overgearing the content.. A tank at the intended ilvl would have to perform flawlessly to get past the double wicked wheels.

    EDIT: for what it's worth, almost all my kills have been done with me MTing using MrHappy's strat because that's the goto strat for many english speaking people. My first encounter with the 3 way pull made it very clear how much better it was. Any time I have tried to ask groups to do the 3 way pull it's usually met with people unfamiliar with the strategy so to save time we always end up with the 2 way pull. So I'd have to agree that MrHappy's video guide did more harm than good because it popularised an inferior strategy.
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kayuwoody View Post
    Considering the ilvl requirement to DF this fight, I'm convinced the 3 way pull is the way the fight was designed to be done. It is simply superior to MrHappy's method in that it removes most of the points of failure out of the equation. MrHappy's method is valid, but relies on overgearing the content.. A tank at the intended ilvl would have to perform flawlessly to get past the double wicked wheels.

    EDIT: for what it's worth, almost all my kills have been done with me MTing using MrHappy's strat because that's the goto strat for many english speaking people. My first encounter with the 3 way pull made it very clear how much better it was. Any time I have tried to ask groups to do the 3 way pull it's usually met with people unfamiliar with the strategy so to save time we always end up with the 2 way pull. So I'd have to agree that MrHappy's video guide did more harm than good because it popularised an inferior strategy.
    Maybe, maybe not. An ilvl 65 tank still has around 5.8k HP, and a war with 6k+. As stated by yoshi, all content after garuda HM is made for players that have all their cross classes received. So the happy method still applies even at that level, if you have a good team.

    Melees can travel between tornados, they can dodge wicked wheel and feathers if they get the timing down.

    A MT can survive the double wicked and feathers if the healers are doing pre-shields+virus (you lazy blms work!) And so on.

    Don't mis-understand the pug (me myself and I) nature and a well oiled team. Most of the tactics in garuda ex can be found, and matured in coil teams of 2.0.
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