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  1. #11
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    Ineli Falcus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    White gear iLVL is the same as its equip level. Most dungeon gear and the aetherial pink gear is equip level +1 or 2.
    Shortened^for char limit

    You do know the devs can assign any item level they want to new gear when it's released, right?
    That they can put on a higher item level for whites based on the wearable level, right?
    It isn't a hard thing to grasp. They don't need to limit themself like previous gear has been. The white/pink/green gear etc were balanced as they are currently based on the current endgame gear.
    You also seem to ignore the fact that some of the item level 90 gear is green.

    They can easily set the item level at whatever they want for level 51+ gear to accommodate whatever the highest item level is at 50.
    Though that being said, the best gear at 50 would still be better than lower tier 51-60 gear for example because of the difficulty in obtaining them. But getting better than it won't take long once you hit the new cap.
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    You win, Mr. Falcus! (no prize for you)

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    Kazamoto Futatabi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcus View Post
    You do know the devs can assign any item level they want to new gear when it's released, right?
    They could.
    Quote Originally Posted by Falcus View Post
    That they can put on a higher item level for whites based on the wearable level, right?
    It isn't a hard thing to grasp. They don't need to limit themself like previous gear has been.
    They can, and don't have that need.
    Quote Originally Posted by Falcus View Post
    The white/pink/green gear etc were balanced as they are currently based on the current endgame gear.
    This is a possible way to look at it.

    But with the wonders of not seeing the future, we cannot know until it happens.

    My assumptions are based on them following what they have already done.

    Your assumptions are based on them doing something different.

    Both are equally likely, and I respect your opinion.

    But, since the future could be anything, as long as we are assuming they will change from their established pattern, they could also decide to make us all Jedi. There is nothing (aside from a lawsuit from Disney) stopping them. This is the danger is assuming what they did, has no bearing on what they will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcus View Post
    You also seem to ignore the fact that some of the item level 90 gear is green.
    This is why I tried to say 'Dungeon green' rather than just green, as I do acknowledge that myth gear is also green.


    When you mention wow, you must realize my title is a reference to WoW, burning crusade I want to guess. It was a meme popular enough to get a t-shirt.
    http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070311

    With a single expansion, so-called top tier gear (purple) was suddenly worse than gear dropped by trash mobs.
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    Last edited by Kazamoto; 01-28-2014 at 02:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    When you mention wow, you must realize my title is a reference to WoW, burning crusade I want to guess. It was a meme popular enough to get a t-shirt.
    http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070311

    With a single expansion, so-called top tier gear (purple) was suddenly worse than gear dropped by trash mobs.
    Which is false actually. In fact, a good handful of endgame Classic gear was used well into TBC because it was so good. People even went back and farmed Naxxramas at 70 because some of the items were better than what you could get from Karazhan. Only the lower tier epics (MC and some BWL) were quickly replaced. Most epics were valid until level cap, and some stayed relevant for a good while after that.

    Rejuvenating Gem and some Tier 3 set pieces (and bonuses) are a prime example.
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    iLevel is generally the stat weight of the item. How much the stats are on it determine the iLvl, not what level the character can equip it. Just because the white iLvl is the same as the equip level, doesn't mean they are tied together, that is just coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    When you mention wow, you must realize my title is a reference to WoW, burning crusade I want to guess. It was a meme popular enough to get a t-shirt.
    http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070311

    With a single expansion, so-called top tier gear (purple) was suddenly worse than gear dropped by trash mobs.
    Not quite. Purples from Raids were still decent and usable in BC. It was non raid dungeon gear that was weaker than the green drops in BC and maybe some of the first raid dungeon gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    When you mention wow, you must realize my title is a reference to WoW, burning crusade I want to guess. It was a meme popular enough to get a t-shirt.
    http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070311

    With a single expansion, so-called top tier gear (purple) was suddenly worse than gear dropped by trash mobs.
    Trash mobs in XIV don't drop gear so you'll only have to worry about one or two story quest rewards between 50 and 60 that will probably be comparable to what the average player already has on.
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    I bow to your superior knowledge of WoW gearing and raid drops, I personally have no experience that far into WoW, but remember friends in college being upset by it, and hearing the phrase 'green is the new purple' more often than 'the cake is a lie' in Portal's hayday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Trash mobs in XIV don't drop gear so you'll only have to worry about one or two story quest rewards between 50 and 60 that will probably be comparable to what the average player already has on.

    Very true, and its not like they did anything to affect FFXIV already with quest drops... cough-materia-cough.
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