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  1. #11
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    Masamune Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cegiana View Post
    What is it with some people that they can't get it through their heads that this is a CASUAL online FF game, that translates to everyone having access to everything, not just the lifeless/jobless only, like FFXI used to be before all solo updates. Seriously, it's an exremely simple concept, why is it so hard for some to understand?
    I understand your simple concept. But can you also understand the simple concept that there are people who like to complete "all" challenges of a game who don't want to have to put life on hold to rush to get to these challenges before they are nerfed? Give us more time. We aren't even getting a year before content is being made easier.
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    Lona Shiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    It may be the plan but do you agree with it?
    Totally agree with it. don't quite agree with the timing. I would remove lock out for coil 1-5 and put the CT loot lock out on it now
    and remove that when tier 3 coil came out. You can't hold back newbs as they come in later down the road and lowering helps them catch up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    Totally agree with it. don't quite agree with the timing. I would remove lock out for coil 1-5 and put the CT loot lock out on it now
    and remove that when tier 3 coil came out. You can't hold back newbs as they come in later down the road and lowering helps them catch up.
    ok. This sounds in line with my last post. The timing seems too soon. SE needs to give its playerbase more time before throwing in the towel.
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    I don't mind them giving a buff to help get folks that are lagging behind a hand up to get through it, though I would appreciate it if the buff was voluntary, and maybe add an achievement for beating a turn without the buff.
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  5. #15
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    Shizu Hikari
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    I agree, we don't need the lockout removed and the echo buff. Removing the lock out is fine enough because one of the big issues is that players that can beat stuff like Twintania already have statics for it. Allowing players from those kind of statics to help others if they want will help a lot more than making the content easier because it will help players become better as a whole and refine their skills more.
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    “ Free the world, not by taking men’s lives, but by taking their tongues.”

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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    I am with you on "don't nerf it" to a certain extend.
    With Coil, It is not supposed to be easy, it is supposed to take you on. The lockout sucks I am happy they are going to remove it on the early turns.
    With Pharos? Even the trashmobs feel hard. The Bosses take ridicolous amount of damage before they go down and the adds are not to joke about either. Haukke and Copperbell HM on the other hand are easy if you know what to do. Yeah Pharos gets easier too when you know what to do. But compared to Haukke and Copperbell HM it is hell.

    Tell me again. What exactly is Casual in FFXIV?
    Primals EX are not
    Coil is not
    Pharos is not
    While easy CT Haukke and Coperbell are not.
    Crafting? No
    Advancing in Story? Well consdiering you need 2 times for manin story 8 people .... that isnt casual anymore
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    Last edited by Kimikryo; 01-26-2014 at 02:42 AM.

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    Ragnirok Highstrike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cegiana View Post
    I disagree with the OP 100%, you had your fun with the content, now it's time to stop being so selfish and let others enjoy the content you enjoyed. Not everyone wants a super challange that requires memorizing a pattern perfectly (and since when is remembering a pattern challenging, that sounds likes a kid in school memorizing the answers to the test. Was the test hard? Nah, he just memorized the answers.)

    What is it with some people that they can't get it through their heads that this is a CASUAL online FF game, that translates to everyone having access to everything, not just the lifeless/jobless only, like FFXI used to be before all solo updates. Seriously, it's an exremely simple concept, why is it so hard for some to understand?
    This is the problem with you people.You want everything handed to you. Where is your drive to earn something or accomplish something. This isn't as casual a game as you might think. As someone already mentioned you have to work at a lot of the content in the game (ex primals and coil used to be HM titan). Content shouldn't be nerfed because they are too lazy to put the time into learning.If remembering a pattern is so easy then why haven't you been able to down the content. Why hasn't anyone been able to down the content.

    And as for the lifeless/jobless. My group raids 6 hours a week tops. We learned the fights and downed them in that time frame. If playing for 6 hours a week means you have no life/job then i'll be damned there must be a lot of homeless, anti social people in the world.

    If they remove the lock then maybe they can gear up faster to clear the content and that's ok. But if they nerf it then there isn't a challenge there for people who still want to earn something rather then have it be given.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Apparently Pharos Sirius is difficult.... LOL

    Answer: Lets nerf it so no one can find content enjoyable.
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    Agrias Kirosuu
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    thanks SE for nerf it
    too many elitist ingame now that make me cant progress to coil
    i agree with OP if only the community is friendly....but that just a dream
    with almost everyone that do endgame content is elitist, this make new player/casual unable to enjoy the game
    and also the existence of troll on df
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Apparently Pharos Sirius is difficult.... LOL

    Answer: Lets nerf it so no one can find content enjoyable.
    It is not just difficult, is is beyond fun difficult. It should be at same gearlevel as Hauke and Copperbell below CT. But the bosses have stronger attacks than CT bosses, and some trashmob parts are, for a 4 man group, harder than the "trashmob" part in CT. Just match the difficulty to Haukke and Copperbell and Pharos still will be a dungeon that will be a challange. Or make it harder and put it on similar ilvl versions as Ex Primals (Come on it IS siren after all)
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