Lack of SE Response to Lag

[Allyra]

False, some people in this thread have said exactly that. In other threads I've seen this as well. Many people falsely think it is 100% squares fault. That is entirely incorrect.

Except you responded to me, and I never did. Don't put me under that bubble.

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Again, you are somehow assume, what? Blizz did all this? Hardly. I played WoW on release, and don't get me wrong, that game was terrible at the start. Crashed every two hours, I am sometimes surprised they were able to survive long enough to become the powerhouse it became. About six months into WoW they did some super patch to fix everything wrong with their game. And it worked. It saved them. I don't think at the time Blizz had more money than what SE has now. To assume they could afford to do it (if they had to) would mean SE could to.

@yet again the Level3 stuff: Tired of hearing it. My issue is NOT with level3. It's with Tata Communications, which I've already reported, and they haven't done anything. I hate this constant assumption that people aren't reporting this. I have quite a few amount of friends in SoCal who have, and many on these forums have. Just because the issue isn't getting resolved does not mean we've all been sitting on our hands.

And yes, I never said we shouldn't report them. That doesn't mean SE gets to stick their fingers in their ears and do nothing while we report to ISPs.

[Tupsi]

@yet again the Level3 stuff: Tired of hearing it. My issue is NOT with level3. .

Level3 is a CONFIRMED issue, this is why people say it. Confirmed by ISPs themselves.

[Allyra]

Level3 is a CONFIRMED issue, this is why people say it. Confirmed by ISPs themselves.

I never said it wasn't?

[Tupsi]

I never said it wasn't?

It's not your issue, but why are you tired of hearing about a confirmed issue? You say SE is sticking their fingers in their ears, yet people keep bringing up level3 being confirmed to bring it to SE's attention. Btw, Fiance is in Long Beach CA and doesn't have issues with Tata, so maybe this is why it's not confirmed yet, because that's not as widespread as level3 - QUITE A LOT of people go through level3.

So while you're tired of hearing about it, it's really one of the biggest issues with this lag.

[Tiggy]

Except you responded to me, and I never did. Don't put me under that bubble.

I responded because you said "No one has said it's 100% SE's fault." That statement is blatantly not about you. At all. You said "No one" which is about people other than yourself. I have literally seen other people do that so I deem your statement completely false. I never accused you personally of saying these things and I simply acknowledged that others have. Stop being so defensive when you have absolutely no reason to be.

Just because the issue isn't getting resolved does not mean we've all been sitting on our hands.

Literally the exact same thing can be said of Square-Enix in this situation, and yet we have entire threads devoted to the cause of getting an answer out of them. So, are you trying to admit square probably isn't sitting on their hands?

[Allyra]

I responded because you said "No one has said it's 100% SE's fault."

I am talking about this which you directed at me:

Yep - If it was purely SE, wouldn't XI's players also be suffering the same "unplayable lag"?

When I never said it was purely SE.

Literally the exact same thing can be said of Square-Enix in this situation, and yet we have entire threads devoted to the cause of getting an answer out of them. So, are you trying to admit square probably isn't sitting on their hands?

The difference is, people are saying they are doing something, SE isn't. You may not care, but there are those of us who do. So who are you to say we can't ask for a response?

It's not your issue, but why are you tired of hearing about a confirmed issue?

No. I am tired of people claiming it's my issue when I already said it wasn't. It means they aren't reading my posts.

[Tiggy]

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I only commented on your factually inaccurate statement which was a comment on that statement alone and I wasn't directing anything at you otherwise. Also, you seem to be linking in something from XI that I never said. What are you talking about? Is your quoting all messed up?

In the end it doesn't matter how you split the hairs. There are people in this thread that have literally placed 100% of the blame on SE. You're statement is flatly false no matter how you wish to twist the context.

[Tupsi]

I only commented on your factually inaccurate statement which was a comment on that statement alone and I wasn't directing anything at you otherwise. Also, you seem to be linking in something from XI that I never said. What are you talking about? Is your quoting all messed up?

In the end it doesn't matter how you split the hairs. There are people in this thread that have literally placed 100% of the blame on SE. You're statement is flatly false no matter how you wish to twist the context.

Nope, that was my quote since seeing as a lot of people have said that it is 100% SE wouldn't that make all of their MMOs unplayable? Slow or fast, MMOs can indeed be unplayable. Remember Besieged at Launch of ToAU? Campaign at launch of WoTG? I think the main thing is she thinks generalized statements are directed at her when they're not xD.

That's why English is a weird language ;x

[Tiggy]

Nope, that was my quote since seeing as a lot of people have said that it is 100% SE wouldn't that make all of their MMOs unplayable? Slow or fast, MMOs can indeed be unplayable. Remember Besieged at Launch of ToAU? Campaign at launch of WoTG? I think the main thing is she thinks generalized statements are directed at her when they're not xD.

That's why English is a weird language ;x

Oh, I see what you're saying there. That cleans up some of my confusion about the response.

On your note though I do know that XI has clusters in Japan so it's definitely a different beast this time around.

[Allyra]

I only commented on your factually inaccurate statement which was a comment on that statement alone and I wasn't directing anything at you otherwise. Also, you seem to be linking in something from XI that I never said. What are you talking about? Is your quoting all messed up?

In the end it doesn't matter how you split the hairs. There are people in this thread that have literally placed 100% of the blame on SE. You're statement is flatly false no matter how you wish to twist the context.

You two both start with a T so it was a mix up. I wasn't referring to everyone in the thread but those in the current convo, and it was directed at Tupsi.

Hurray, some idiots think it's 100% SE's fault. I am not one of them. That doesn't mean people (Tupsi) can claim I did.

Nope, that was my quote since seeing as a lot of people have said that it is 100% SE wouldn't that make all of their MMOs unplayable?

And again, false equivalency is false. XI doesn't have 1 shot kills if you have 1 second of lag. That's what makes having lag in this game "unplayable."