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    I have to ask, but why are you guys putting the fire II in-between the double flare? I have found that 2 seconds after the mana tick lets me hit flare x2 and then transpose is ready. Then hit transpose and wait for the 2 seconds after mana tick repeat...no need for fire II. Or is it to sync it so you don't have to watch the mana bar and count to 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    I have to ask, but why are you guys putting the fire II in-between the double flare? I have found that 2 seconds after the mana tick lets me hit flare x2 and then transpose is ready. Then hit transpose and wait for the 2 seconds after mana tick repeat...no need for fire II. Or is it to sync it so you don't have to watch the mana bar and count to 2?
    It is insurance policy more than anything, in turn 4 and other cases, you want the second flare to be the absolute end of the phase. As a BLM, you can't afford to have anything alive in the bug and rooks phase after the second flare. It is the same thing with the two adds in Titan ex, you need them to die or close to it by the end of the second flare.
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    Second flare in turn 4? I am hitting flares back to back multiple times with only a 2 -3 second wait on transpose whenever the tick hits, in turn 4. You only do 2? Am I doing something wrong? I understand the insurance policy, but it you wait the 2 seconds after a mana tick your gonna be fine.

    Fire III -> astral fire III - flare - transpose - wait 2 seconds on first mana tick - flare - flare - transpose - wait 2 seconds on first mana tick - flare - flare - transpose etc. I don't know if the damage output is the same as putting the fire II in between or our other rotation of fire III - fire II - flare - transpose - fire III - fire II - flare etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Second flare in turn 4? I am hitting flares back to back multiple times with only a 2 -3 second wait on transpose whenever the tick hits, in turn 4. You only do 2? Am I doing something wrong? I understand the insurance policy, but it you wait the 2 seconds after a mana tick your gonna be fine.

    Fire III -> astral fire III - flare - transpose - wait 2 seconds on first mana tick - flare - flare - transpose - wait 2 seconds on first mana tick - flare - flare - transpose etc. I don't know if the damage output is the same as putting the fire II in between or our other rotation of fire III - fire II - flare - transpose - fire III - fire II - flare etc.
    No idea never parsed this method or even used it to know. I actually would never use the double flare UI3 trick, not before the patch and not after. I won't help give SE another reason to break the UI 3 ticks. I'm against using it but that is just my opinion. We all know SE think of this as a glitch/bug, so no thanks don't want to ever see another UI 3 "fix" or flare nerf just because of something SE does not like.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 01-24-2014 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    I have to ask, but why are you guys putting the fire II in-between the double flare?
    The extra Fire 2 gives a very minor DPS increase to the rotation. Whether you use it or not, the average DPS is almost the same. You can freely switch between them depending on whether or not stuff is going to die soon. It's basically about timing.
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