We're going to make the game a bit more tolerable for melee DPS

[BrandoH]

Every game I've played has crapped on melee in one way or another. Garuda's actually really easy if you're only taking one (like you should be). Just do nothing on the Wicked Wheel phases. Your BRD + Requiem + 2 Casters should be able to handle them all just fine.

[Vodomir]

Just do nothing on the Wicked Wheel phases. Your BRD + Requiem + 2 Casters should be able to handle them all just fine.

Yeah, cause each and every group always runs with 1 Bard and 2 Casters ...

[MomoOG]

Meh, melee gets shafted on garuda but is optimal for titan so seems okay to me.

[NightReach]

Not to mention melee (namely monks) have the highest DPS on every single fight no matter what mechanics hands down. (maybe except SMN on multi targets)

[Simurgi]

Look at the Skills Garuda Does before the wicked wheel. Here Let me make a small chart for you so that you can fill in the blanks :

1) ? <-- This is the skill that tells you a wicked wheel is coming
2) ? <-- This is the skill that you move out of range when you see it.
3) This is the Wicked wheel that you will dodge if you can fill in 1 and 2.

Now - go do your research and figure it out.

As a Monk - the only time I lose my stacks is when we kill the spiny. At that point it doesn't matter. This is doing the Kill Surprana only strat as well where the melee are standing right on top of Garuda and Surprana.

[HaiHai]

Not to mention melee (namely monks) have the highest DPS on every single fight no matter what mechanics hands down. (maybe except SMN on multi targets)

I wouldn't lump DRG in with MNK as being the highest dmg just because they are melee. While Monk does have the highest dmg on most fights, as they should, DRG normally does not outperform or are equal to BM or SMN on most fights with very few exceptions. Unless the DRG is more geared than or much higher skilled than the BM or SMN.

Even if it were the case that both melee outperform ranged dps on all encounters, you wold still see Ifrit EX groups who refuse to bring melee at all. That fight is the perfect example of how SE is currently making encounters. The fight is not only extremely dangerous for melee themselves, but having them puts an incredible amount of strain and higher competency of play from the entire group in order to accommodate them because of the mechanics of the fight.

[Bebo]

I wouldn't lump DRG in with MNK as being the highest dmg just because they are melee. While Monk does have the highest dmg on most fights, as they should, DRG normally does not outperform or are equal to BM or SMN on most fights with very few exceptions. Unless the DRG is more geared than or much higher skilled than the BM or SMN.

Even if it were the case that both melee outperform ranged dps on all encounters, you wold still see Ifrit EX groups who refuse to bring melee at all. That fight is the perfect example of how SE is currently making encounters. The fight is not only extremely dangerous for melee themselves, but having them puts an incredible amount of strain and higher competency of play from the entire group in order to accommodate them because of the mechanics of the fight.

This right here is what the op and everyone who agreed to this thread has to say this is the exact wording and representation, hit it right on the nail man

[EasymodeX]

Most DRGs should outperform most MNKs on most fights. DRGs are much, much more resilient to mechanics compared to MNKs, especially after 2.1.

[Makado]

Wicked Wheel places a target on the tank when its getting ready (crosshair thing) I believe, I noticed it last night.

[Warrlordd]

Wicked Wheel places a target on the tank when its getting ready (crosshair thing) I believe, I noticed it last night.

That is downburst from Suprana. The OT gets a similar one