Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

[Cleftobismal]

After limiting pt formations to one melee one range. This will have a positive impact when fighting against summoners. Even if your stuck with a bard its all good. <3 Especially now I don't have to deal with 3 melee's ccing me to death D;.

[LongNu]

I'm actually sad they nerfed double ranged. I liked the challenge of taking it on with my SMN/DRG comp.

[Youmu]

I have noticed that a good healer is able to, if left alone, heal through my burst especially if solo and the melee dps is derping around on a different target. I would think that a melee+smn would still global someone no matter the debuff tho, i dunno i haven't really had much time to test since soloQ too strong right now, i just wish the Q time wasnt 15mins

Yeah I can confirm that. My smn is only in 70+allagan wep so not as much dmg as yours, I'm seeing healers reacting pretty well. Might switch back to BLM seeing that you can't dominate solo queue matches without your melee dps helping out. I enjoy blm more anyways, as masochistic as that sounds.

[KyteStones]

I honestly don't believe half of you realize, if the summoner class gets nerfed that it's gonna nerf the PvE portion of it as well. You want PvP? This game has awful PvP to begin with. Why are you wasting your time on PvP? You didn't have it before now. You obviously had other things to do in your "down time" in the game.


Remember. Nerf the summoner/any class in PvP it's nerfed it in PvE. If we're gonna go down that road, i'd like to see WAR's holmgang taken away, PLD's given a REAL AOE spammable skill like "overpower", BRDs losing DoT abilities because lets say they have too many for PvP sake, Dragoons Jump should be locked out from being able to be used at all in PvP (oop that means its gone in PvE too bad) and the monks shoulder tackle distance should be decreased where you have to be right up their bum to use it. BLM's need a buff for the 100% cast interruption (say surecast and swiftcast I dare you) because why would i take my BLM into a completely pointless battle to be slain because i can only use scathe?

Nerf one, you gotta nerf them all. Your pointless and mindless complaining is maddening. Not to mention 2 hours of PvP today and not one Summoner. So your complaining is pretty much useless and if these classes do get nerfer,, youre going to see MORE of the other classes in queue, which I'm sure one of you will find a problem with, then we are back here again, crying like 2 year old babies who need their diapers changed.

[Cleftobismal]

Well I just learned something interesting. Healers will always beat summoners. (Atleast I know for sure a scholar will) In a 1v1. z_z Just destroyed one to pieces when he thought it was a good idea to attack the leeches source. *clap *clap His Enkindle only did 400 dmg from his garuda just fyi. u_u Summoners are fine. Leave em alone. Though wouldnt it be a smarter choice if he used ifrit? Doesn't auto attacks even from titan/ifrit interrupt? owo

[Deca]

I honestly don't believe half of you realize, if the summoner class gets nerfed that it's gonna nerf the PvE portion of it as well. You want PvP? This game has awful PvP to begin with. Why are you wasting your time on PvP? You didn't have it before now. You obviously had other things to do in your "down time" in the game.


Remember. Nerf the summoner/any class in PvP it's nerfed it in PvE. If we're gonna go down that road, i'd like to see WAR's holmgang taken away, PLD's given a REAL AOE spammable skill like "overpower", BRDs losing DoT abilities because lets say they have too many for PvP sake, Dragoons Jump should be locked out from being able to be used at all in PvP (oop that means its gone in PvE too bad) and the monks shoulder tackle distance should be decreased where you have to be right up their bum to use it. BLM's need a buff for the 100% cast interruption (say surecast and swiftcast I dare you) because why would i take my BLM into a completely pointless battle to be slain because i can only use scathe?

Nerf one, you gotta nerf them all. Your pointless and mindless complaining is maddening. Not to mention 2 hours of PvP today and not one Summoner. So your complaining is pretty much useless and if these classes do get nerfer,, youre going to see MORE of the other classes in queue, which I'm sure one of you will find a problem with, then we are back here again, crying like 2 year old babies who need their diapers changed.

What planet are you from, I wanted to shorten the quote but it's all so ridiculous I couldn't find anything I could leave out.

[AldricBranchais]

What planet are you from, I wanted to shorten the quote but it's all so ridiculous I couldn't find anything I could leave out.

Here's your complimentary reaction .gif, courtesy of me.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Derp

It says right in the patch notes *these fixes only apply to the Wolves Den*

[LongNu]

Rage

Uhhh PvP changes are unrelated to PvE

[TaneshimaPopura]

@ KyteStones

Not sure if srs....

I can cast a plenty in PvP not sure why you can't as BLM. Erm do you use Energy Drain in PvE as SMN? Not really no... competitive-ly speaking. Half the time I don't want to shoulder tackle cause DR'ing stun on a 2s stun will get your tanks screaming just like how when you do Twintania and Shoulder Tackle that dread knight your OT is going to scream his heads off. I don't really see Jump being a problem in PvP for DRGs, in fact it is sometimes a risk they have to take cause if they can't bug it to get close it will put them and their target at a further distance. (Not entirely sure about DRG since I don't play one often but I read somewhere if you Jump and do something with the Spear throw thingy you will nullify the return part of the Jump)

Nothing is stopping you from Attuning or Purifying Holmgang you know... Paladin needing more AoE? Seriously in PvP Paladin's do more AoE than MRD/WAR via Circle of Scorn. No WAR/MRD in their right mind would use Overpower, and then again giving Paladin more AoEs to break more CCs? No thanks.

Clearly you have not the aptitude to be doing PvP. It's a really easy meta-game but if you can't kill scripted dragons reliably, PvP isn't for you.