Lack of SE Response to Lag

[alhandra]

Misquoted me, they do not have teh same AMOUNT, but rather, the same type. People who play WoW have the same "shoddy internet connections" that are apparently the cause of everyones connetion issues. Yet they do no effect WoW only FFxiv.

WoW also has way different mechanics that arent as heavily affected by twitch reflexes and dodging, so even if they did have the same problems they would be less noticeable or game breaking

youre comparing apples to oranges

[MythToken]

WoW also has way different mechanics that arent as heavily affected by twitch reflexes and dodging, so even if they did have the same problems they would be less noticeable or game breaking

youre comparing apples to oranges

Literally nothing you just stated is true.

[Allyra]

SE cant fix your bad connections or shoddy internet service. they also cant move you out of the boondocks

Oh man, Los Angeles is so backwater.

whatisthisIdon'teven

[ispano]

They can do things as I listed, and even said poster admitted they could do it, just they don't want to spend the money.

So if they determined it was a loss of money in the long run, you'd still say they should do it?

[MythToken]

I will just state what we all know to be the actual problem. They don't have the money.

They do not have the money to upgrade their server numbers or quality.

Or they are not willing to spend the money to do so.

Either way it is about money. (might have something to do with the failed initial launch, and some debt. hint hint.)

[Allyra]

So if they determined it was a loss of money in the long run, you'd still say they should do it?

Fallacy as I honestly doubt it would be a loss of money in the long run. If people can't play the game, they'll quit.

They don't have to do it all at once. To start, they should add one in Europe. Even WoW didn't do it all at once.

I don't expect an instant fix, I do expect stead progress.

I worry because as it has been stated many times, other mmos actively ban people for using VPNs. These are programs that are not looked on as being even remotely ok. If SE changes their stance to fit with their competitors, I can no longer play this game.

[Tiggy]

No it really isn't, I never used WTFast or Battleping. A VPN server only helps people who are not in the country of the Server they are accessing. You still neglected to address my comment in regards to WoW.

Your logic is also false, just because some people experience an increased performance from 3rd party ping programs does not mean it fixed the underlying problem. The server architecture. You could also argue that BECAUSE it only works for some people, that is proof that it is not the internet, or it would fix all the problems.

Completely incorrect. If there is routing issues between me and a fixed point on the internet there can be numerous problems between me and that point. Such as a overworked router. A VPN can be used that routes in a different way and bypasses that crappy node. This can happen in the same country, in the same state, or even across the same town. These services are NOT limited to just people outside of the country. I personally used WTFast from the east coast of the US for about two months. In that time I definitely had a complete decrease in lag during prime time hours. There is no way it was the server. It was the way I was being routed.

No, you can not in any way argue that because it works for some people that it's proof that it is not the internet. That's completely backwards from what real troubleshooting suggests. The fact that it works for even a single person, and removes all the lag that they experience proves without a doubt that it was not the server. If it was the server even a user with a perfect connection to the server would experience issues anyway. If I can eliminate the internet from the situation and still receive lag then it is clearly the server. Since we can't the best we can do is change the way we route through the internet to achieve a different result. The simple fact that the apps work proves the internet is causing severe problems.

I don't understand how you can see that so completely backwards. Nothing you pointed out would suggest the server was the problem.

You really need to learn how to troubleshoot.

[MythToken]

There arn't routing issues within the states to states, that is what you arnt getting.

This is a game problem.

A VPN would do nothing for me, literally nothing.

Read the thread, stop derailing about VPNs.


Also if your argument is that for everyone to get a vpn to play the game correctly, then there is something wrong with the game.

And you have no facts about VPN's fixing anything.

[ispano]

Fallacy as I honestly doubt it would be a loss of money in the long run. If people can't play the game, they'll quit.

They don't have to do it all at once. To start, they should add one in Europe. Even WoW didn't do it all at once.

I don't expect an instant fix, I do expect stead progress.

I worry because as it has been stated many times, other mmos actively ban people for using VPNs. These are programs that are not looked on as being even remotely ok. If SE changes their stance to fit with their competitors, I can no longer play this game.

See that's the reason they only made one datacenter for both NA/EU. They didn't see it being worth the money to do so. And if they don't expect to see a decent playerbase increase, it still isn't worth it. People like to say they'll lose customers so it is worth it, but the thing is it still would likely be a loss of money.

There arn't routing issues within the states to states, that is what you arnt getting.

This is a game problem.

A VPN would do nothing for me, literally nothing.

Read the thread, stop derailing about VPNs.


Also if your argument is that for everyone to get a vpn to play the game correctly, then there is something wrong with the game.

And you have no facts about VPN's fixing anything.

Actually there is a routing issue. There's 1-2 routers, perhaps more, that are experiencing issues. And these are routers people from both NA and EU go through. Not all of them mind you, but a decent chunk. One is Level3 for sure, perhaps others too. Supposedly one on Cogent too.

[MythToken]

A routing issue, that is directly because of how the server system that SE setup, is a server issue.
Not the intranetz fault.

Like the OP said, SE has options, and they have chosen the cheap one.

And you are seeing the results.