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  1. #41
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    Nayto's Avatar
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    Blake Ater
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 65
    Meh, in this day and age of "I ain't got time for you sh** noob" mentality, vote abandon just helps 'politely' smooth things over in saying "fail party".

    More reasons to use the PF I guess... funny how people thought the DF would kill this game, were actually getting more reasons to stray away from it.
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  2. #42
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    wait for the other 11 slots to be slowly filled
    It could still be faster than going fresh into the queue again. As long as people are using in-progress joins.

    Besides, if you voted No, it obviously means you wanted to continue. If you don't want to "waste time" waiting for replacements, wouldn't you have voted Yes, and thus exited without penalty already? In which case why would you care what the remaining people do?

    Allowing people who voted Yes to stay behind, gives them a choice. There's no reason why those who refuse to abandon it are forced to abandon. They wanted to continue, which means they accept that they wait for replacements. Give them that choice. If they wait for 20 minutes and decide to abandon, they can then abandon.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  3. #43
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    diulalasing's Avatar
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    Yaladilae Hallucinate
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    Cerberus
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    My friend had this...

    Premade group with tank who queued for dungeon

    random DPS ( my friend) after 40 minute queue joined dungeon

    dungeon starts, premade voted abandon, byebye
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  4. #44
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    IzumiRaito's Avatar
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Vote abandon should require 100% yes votes.
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  5. #45
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    Nysneirdre's Avatar
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    Nysneirdre Lauriel
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    lol accusing people of abusing vote abandon.

    If a party wipes multiple times and someone chooses to vote abandon and others agree to it. It's not abuse. That's the intended design.
    Boom we have a winner! Don't let the thread bother you. People were bound to coming running to the forum when they got mad when the group disbanded.
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  6. #46
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Solution: Vote Abandon kicks people who vote yes (when more than 2) only. That's what it is there for after all, people who are going "This isn't working" and want to leave without eating a 30 minute downtime. Everyone else remains and can refill the party and not lose the progress.

    Alternatively, Vote Abandon simply removes the 30 minute downtime from leaving that instance. Once enough vote yes, people can leave without fear of the downtime if they want.
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  7. #47
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by firepixiedarien View Post
    Short and sweet cuz I'm very angry right now: was in CT, Alliance A had 4 melee dps. Wiped 3x on Atomos, we almost had it the 3rd time. Someone Vote Abandoned, I clicked no, the Vote went through and I was booted.
    So why didnt you co-ordinate with the other 2 Alliances to swap some of their ranged for your melee?
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  8. #48
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Solution: Vote Abandon kicks people who vote yes (when more than 2) only. That's what it is there for after all, people who are going "This isn't working" and want to leave without eating a 30 minute downtime. Everyone else remains and can refill the party and not lose the progress.

    Alternatively, Vote Abandon simply removes the 30 minute downtime from leaving that instance. Once enough vote yes, people can leave without fear of the downtime if they want.
    I will then await the next thread complaining about people being able to leave their instance without penalty and how it's abuse and harassment and the players who voted yes should be named, shamed, banned and struggled against before being exiled to Siberia.

    Really they won't be happy unless players are forced to stick with groups, which is never going to happen because most of us happen to be grown adults who can do what we want with our leisure time.
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  9. #49
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    To be totally fair, this game is NOT played by ONLY adults,but many youngsters without maturity, giving them a tool that requires a degree of maturity is very dangerous as they do not have the requires levelled to actually know when and how to use it. Equally, though, many supposed adults are worse then children, just because they can hide behind the anonimity of the internet.

    Abandon/kick is a bad tool !

    Mei
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  10. #50
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    Square Pusher
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Solution: Vote Abandon kicks people who vote yes (when more than 2) only. That's what it is there for after all, people who are going "This isn't working" and want to leave without eating a 30 minute downtime. Everyone else remains and can refill the party and not lose the progress.

    Alternatively, Vote Abandon simply removes the 30 minute downtime from leaving that instance. Once enough vote yes, people can leave without fear of the downtime if they want.
    this was delicious
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