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    Player ReiszRie's Avatar
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    Reisz Rie
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    People will always steal from others so why make laws to try and prevent as much of it as we can?
    Laws only serves as a deterrence against stealing, there is nothing to stop anyone from stealing from you, similarly, if a player or alliance is trolling you, you can always report them to the GM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    By your logic it is never worth making any attempt to prevent any crime because someone will always find a way...

    FYI making it harder to commit crime in the first place does more to reduce crime than enforcing harsher penalties. It is the same in this instance. If you fail to understand that then I fear I cannot help you.
    What you guys are advocating here (remove vote abandon) is equivalent to banning all knives to prevent knife attacks
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    Last edited by ReiszRie; 01-22-2014 at 01:34 PM.

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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Vote abandon was a feature players had repeatedly requested for in the forums and now its magically a feature that SE irresponsibly added and should be removed? damned if you do damned if you don't
    The problem is that it has been added with many flaws, things that a lot of us would have designed another way.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Laws only serves as a deterrence against stealing, there is nothing to stop anyone from stealing from you, similarly, if a player or alliance is trolling you, you can always report them to the GM.
    Why give more workload to GMs when it can simply be fixed forever? To use the stealing example, it would be like saying that laws aren't necessary because you can always buy a gun (because you couldn't call the police without a law protecting you). A bit overkill, if you ask me.

    Not to mention that it's not only that it can be misused or used for trolling, but that the whole system design in an alliance as they work like now doesn't make sense at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    What you guys are advocating here (remove vote abandon) is equivalent to banning all knives to prevent knife attacks
    Actually, I think that you misunderstood the thread. The system only should to be removed (in CT only) if fixing it in a timely manner (as to avoid innecessary bad blood) is not possible. I posted what I would fix in the previous page, and I think that it can be done.
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    Last edited by Yshnal; 01-22-2014 at 08:03 PM.