Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

[Deca]

Patch notes up. Get wrecked, SMNs.

Pretty sure I didn't get nerfed at all!

[ziko]

The damage potential in an ideal situation is not evidence that a class is overpowered. .

good point, I do see it fit if you grind hard to create the perfect opportunity it should bare more fruitful results. but let me remind you that a DRG, MNK, BLM or BRD won't do such damage in their ideal situation, maybe if a DRG or MNK LBs on a few bar then they might do more than half of that SMN's damage.

here is an SMN who decided to measure his and his party dps (note some dps had relic+1) while doing Garuda HM fight. The SMN did a dmg overall of 157,306 the runner up was the DRG that did 72,928 dmg, rest of the dps were around 50k, the video speaks for itself where SMN rank among the other dps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmJ7fiTuYVM

I also posted earlier in this thread a SMN full party doing WP. all the pictures and clips shows that SMN is the current big thing right now..

'If you can't beat them, join them'

[Youmu]

mfw SMN nerfs:

[BrandoH]

Pretty sure I didn't get nerfed at all!

Your dmg can be healed through now, you can't party with another smn (or a blm or brd, for that matter) they took away your heavy, you can't sprint or jump away from melee now, and they took away your res. Pretty sure you did.

[Deca]

Your dmg can be healed through now, you can't party with another smn (or a blm or brd, for that matter) they took away your heavy, you can't sprint or jump away from melee now, and they took away your res. Pretty sure you did.

My damage still cannot be healed through, I havent partied a non MNK dps in 3 weeks, heavy and sprint don't matter because I melee range kill people, I never jumped, and now my enemies can't rez as much. IT'S CHRISTMAS FOR ME!

[LongNu]

Lol @ people thinking Summoners actually got 'nerfed'.

[Mitski]

Lol @ people thinking Summoners actually got 'nerfed'.

SMN was technically nerfed, but I'm not sure if it's honestly going to make any difference. I will play before I complain, but SMN were LOLing about globaling people in 2.1... and there were no damage adjustments

[x037x]

Just healed a wayward band of noobs in a mixture of unmelded pve / crafted wolf gear against a Rank 30 SMN... I won't mention his name.. but the fight lasted 2min.. and one of the wayward noobs was able to get a kill! we still lost.. but I must say, last patch that would have lasted all but 15 sec

[LongNu]

SMN was technically nerfed, but I'm not sure if it's honestly going to make any difference. I will play before I complain, but SMN were LOLing about globaling people in 2.1... and there were no damage adjustments

Higher burst output paired with a healing debuff makes it a naturally superior class for PvP. Regardless of nerfs, they are still, by default - the ranged class I would want to roll with. Not complaining here though.

[mirth12]

Just healed a wayward band of noobs in a mixture of unmelded pve / crafted wolf gear against a Rank 30 SMN... I won't mention his name.. but the fight lasted 2min.. and one of the wayward noobs was able to get a kill! we still lost.. but I must say, last patch that would have lasted all but 15 sec

I have noticed that a good healer is able to, if left alone, heal through my burst especially if solo and the melee dps is derping around on a different target. I would think that a melee+smn would still global someone no matter the debuff tho, i dunno i haven't really had much time to test since soloQ too strong right now, i just wish the Q time wasnt 15mins