A party member has withdrawn...

[Hvinire]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

[Auron_Wolf]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

[Genesis88]

Sweet thx for the fix.

[MikoteAstra]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

How exactly will this fix the problem with the withdraw !

Once they see that they are not joining in progress party but in a new party witch will start from the begining they will withdraw as usual !

And i have to sit extra 40min plus pushing the start button for the dn !

[ispano]

How exactly will this fix the problem with the withdraw !

Once they see that they are not going in but in a new party witch will begin they will withdraw as usual !

And i have to sit extra 40min plus pushing the start button for the dn !

Because most of the time they're looking for an in progress at a certain point. Now they know they might get in before the first boss is even dead.

[MikoteAstra]

Because most of the time they're looking for an in progress at a certain point. Now they know they might get in before the first boss is even dead.

But if they are looking for in progress party, witch they do....once they see that its a begining party they will withdraw again!

And this is 90% of the case why they withdraw, because they are put in starter party not in in progress one !

Or am i mistaken something here ?

[LunnaRavenheart]

Unfortunatelly fix in 2.15 is not sufficient.
Following changes should be implemented:

1. Remove desc. in progress and status to all dungeons/raids/trials etc which are in progress
- If you are willing to join in progress and you had checked this option you may enter to new run or you may enter to in progress but you should NOT know this until you entered

2. 5 minutes penalty for people who withdrawn when duty popped.
- You are free to withdraw before duty is ready without penalty(when there is something important IRL and you decided to not go to duty after you decided you want to do some duties in game)
- When you are AFK and you missed duty ready screen you will receive 5 minutes penalty. Its okay because you will probably be back to PC when 5 minutes already gone or in 3rd 4th minute so its dont affect you very much
- When you abusing this or making harsh with this you can do only once per 5 minutes.

[LunnaRavenheart]

3. 30 minutes penalty for all leavers in duty not just first one
- Since duty dismissal (vote abandon) is in place there is no reason to not give penalty to all who leave without official end of duty (by vote abandon or duty complete)

4. 30 minutes penalty for kicked player
- Prevention for kick abuse aka "Kick me I want to leave or I will afk"
- Cases are reviewed by GM so if somebody kick someone without valid reason -> 72h ban

5. Change vote abandon / kick according to how much players are left in party.

Light party:
4 players - 3 votes needed
3 players - 2 votes needed
2 players - 1 vote needed
1 player - 1 vote needed (to abandon duty)

Full party:
8 players - 6 votes needed
7 players - 5 votes needed
6 players - 4 votes needed
5 players - 3 votes needed
4 players - 3 votes needed
3 players - 2 votes needed
2 players - 1 vote needed
1 player - 1 vote needed

[Aleczan]

How exactly will this fix the problem with the withdraw !

Once they see that they are not joining in progress party but in a new party witch will start from the begining they will withdraw as usual !

And i have to sit extra 40min plus pushing the start button for the dn !

What????? People withdrawing from Duty when Duty ready for CT is because of this!??? THIS!? I never knew. I always thought it was broken or someone was talking to NPC or something.... I totally agree with the OP for making the person who withdraws face the 2 minutes lockout.

[Gokuhan]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

I hate to say it, but doesn't help fix the problem. This happens with The Wanderer's Palace and Amdapor Keep as well.

I know that the devs don't want to punish people that change their mind or registered for the wrong thing, or w/e else. However this is a real issue that needs to be addressed.

I say you should get one free Withdraw per 15 minute window. Do it again and you're hit with a time-out penalty. (When I say a Withdraw, I mean from a completed queue of course, not while it is still forming).