Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

[Quackley]

As for that picture well... I guess stupid people get killed under a minute.

looooooool...

wait is this srs

[Cleftobismal]

looooooool...

wait is this srs

:< Take a Guess.

[Quackley]

:< Take a Guess.

You can find quite a few clips of a summoner like Dj charging over to the other team and blowing something up in like 2 seconds before deciding someone else needs to die almost as quickly.
Even if it lives, it's followed up by just as much damage for the next 8 years, with basically zero setup from the summoner.
It doesn't even matter how geared the player is, they drop all the same.

Please, go ahead and tell me how a player, stupid or not, does anything against that?

Like I said, you arcanists are cute. :3

Your class beats literally every other class in burst, sustained damage, and utility (for a DPS).
BLM may come close in utility with sleep, but they don't also have ridiculous damage.
Well they do, but it takes time and quite a bit of hard casting, SMN doesn't really.

[Cleftobismal]

Your class beats literally every other class in burst, sustained damage, and utility (for a DPS).
BLM may come close in utility with sleep, but they don't also have ridiculous damage.

Because the SMN has a frack load of morality while the victim who dies in two seconds doesn't right?


And blackmage hurts like hell with Fire 3 + Flare + Convert + Swift Cast + Flare again. Let alone that's without thunder. And Idk what your healer does, but when I PvP I remove the debuffs. Let alone Purify completely removes all the crap you have on yourself. [Which is an All Class PvP skill]


Just FYI, we spell casters shoot garbage at a 90 degree angle. Aka just walk behind us (us as in those who are mentally challenged to left click position their character just to keep the spell up) or trick us to face away from you and Bad-ah Bing Bad-ah Boom. We cant cast crap on you, especially if your peeling us.

Well they do, but it takes time and quite a bit of hard casting, SMN doesn't really.

The biggest Cast Time Difference I see between skills that actually have a cast time is 1 Second.

Fire 3

3.5 Secs

Bio2. . Miasma .. Ruin . .

2.5 Secs


While their other skills are .5 to none more.

[I'm not including flare for the reason of you should be using that skill to last/one hit or rape the fool hardy melees who like to stay together]

If a BLM is failing to cast everything at an approaching melee. HE isnt using his utilities right. But lets not get to the peeling part. You can blame SE for that.

[AldricBranchais]

Because the SMN has a frack load of morality while the victim who dies in two seconds doesn't right?

These are against players in i90 PVP gear.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...19#post1770919

Sauce.

[Quackley]

Because the SMN has a frack load of morality while the victim who dies in two seconds doesn't right?

It doesn't even matter how geared the player is, they drop all the same.

The summoners doing the damage themselves have said it barely matters what they're wearing (70 PvP, 90 PvE, 90 PvP, anyways) or what the target's in, it's over the top.

[Cleftobismal]

The summoners doing the damage themselves have said it barely matters what they're wearing (70 PvP, 90 PvE, 90 PvP, anyways) or what the target's in, it's over the top.

That's quite the reliable source you have there my friend.

These are against players in i90 PVP gear.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...19#post1770919

Sauce.

From the looks of that thread its nothing but a egotistic pit full of baddies. You call this credible information?

[Quackley]

That's quite the reliable source you have there my friend.

From the thread:

Hi just like to keep everyone MAINLY SE updated. Still globaling people in ilvl 90 pvp gear...soooo i dont think gear is what makes summoners OP lol

Dj's like one of the nicest guys on this forum, and easily counts as credible for summoners.
He's probably one of the few credible ones actually, seeing as how he actually admits summoners are pretty silly.

He's pointed it out from the beginning and other arcanists have jumped at his throat, of course he's gonna make jokes and be a little sarcastic about it now.
He thinks you guys are all ridiculous.

Because you are.

From the looks of that thread its nothing but a egotistic pit full of baddies. You call this credible information?

Defending summoners, has attitude, calls other people baddies.
Nice one friend!

zzz

[AldricBranchais]

That's quite the reliable source you have there my friend.

From the looks of that thread its nothing but a egotistic pit full of baddies. You call this credible information?

Forget about it, reason is beyond you.

[Quackley]

Oh boy, you edited your post. Okay, where do we start?

And blackmage hurts like hell with Fire 3 + Flare + Convert + Swift Cast + Flare again.

You're really telling me someone's gonna let a BLM hardcast a flare? REAAAAAALLY?
Yes it hurts, BLMs can kill anything if you let them do so, but this also takes massive set up. Summoners don't. They can (and do) kill people very quickly with zero actual hardcasts, just things like Enkindle and Energy Drain. They're not nearly as dependent upon multiple long casts to land kills.

Just FYI, we spell casters shoot garbage at a 90 degree angle. Aka just walk behind us (us as in those who are mentally challenged to left click position their character just to keep the spell up) or trick us to face away from you and Bad-ah Bing Bad-ah Boom. We cant cast crap on you, especially if your peeling us.

If only there was an option to face people while casting.
Oh, waitaminute, there is? Both turning yourself, or just spamming FACE TARGET?
WOAH.

The biggest Cast Time Difference I see between skills that actually have a cast time is 1 Second.

Fire 3

3.5 Secs

Bio2. . Miasma .. Ruin . .

2.5 Secs

Cmon, of all things, REALLY? Ruin with a cast time?

Ruin II
Type Spell
Acquired Level 38 Arcanist
Requires ACN, SMN, SCH
Cast Time Instant
Cooldown 2.5s
Range 25y
Description Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 80.
Additional Effect: Blind for 10s.

Woah, that's neato, Ruin II does the same damage, has a blind, and is instant?
I'm gonna use Ruin anyways. Because it's way cooler.

Now if only summoners had lots of other strong instants, y'know?
That'd be just swell.

Wait, you're telling me they DO?
omigawd :3

I'll give you that their dots have cast time, but currently they don't ACTUALLY need them. Which is hilarious, that a class with a billion dots doesn't need them.

That, and comparing putting your dots up to a BLM who has to chain cast multiple spells to actually kill something is cute.
Yours are followed by incredibly strong instants, a BLM's is followed by more chain casting. I don't think I need to point out how much easier that is to stop.

This is all damage too, it's not even getting into the utility that is BRez, an instant, spammable aoe heavy/MS combo, a bind if you need it, a set-and-forget interrupt bot, and I'm sure there's plenty I've left out.