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    Des Allure
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    @Splorch:
    Clear all the content first, then give advice.

    Have fun with math all you want but when it's time to take theorycrafting off paper and into practice, your ideas fall short.

    Edit: Clarity.
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    Aisha Knudel
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    Quote Originally Posted by echoist View Post
    @Splorch:
    Clear all the content first, then give advice.

    Have fun with math all you want but when it's time to take theorycrafting off paper and into practice, your ideas fall short.

    Edit: Clarity.
    Eh when you are 1/8 of a raid team clearing all available content is representative of two things, luck in getting in a good group and skill in the individual. Most the time people fall short in the first category. Besides we already have seen scholars saying they cleared titan ex dual sch, and that it felt easier than whm/sch. So much for ideas falling short in practice.

    I'd love to hear about dual scholar attempts or success on twintania btw, doubt many people have even tried it though. The only thing that might prove difficult are fireballs and death sentences, but with two scholars spamming adlo pre ds there is probably a good chance you will have a crit adlo before ds cast. Or between scholar stoneskin and sacred soil you mitigate roughly the same amount a whm would have with their improved stoneskin.
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    Last edited by AishaK; 01-20-2014 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AishaK View Post
    Besides we already have seen scholars saying they cleared titan ex dual sch, and that it felt easier than whm/sch. So much for ideas falling short in practice.
    There are vids of whm solo healing titan EX so I don't see your point. I bet that's a lot easier to do on whm than sch.
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    Last edited by DantedmcVII; 01-20-2014 at 03:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DantedmcVII View Post
    There are vids of whm solo healing titan EX so I don't see your point. Try to do that with sch have fun.
    Oh nice whm can solo heal a random fight. I never said whm's cant heal or dont have nice aoe heals just that in terms of progression and end game scholars are looking to outperform whm. All the aoe healing power in the world means nothing if there are no fights designed with a whm aoe specifically in mind. Otherwise its safer to bring along the superior single target healer with sufficient aoe pet healing

    Seriously, might as well have brought up turn 2 enrage strat, see guys whm is fine, they can aoe heal lots!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AishaK View Post
    Oh nice whm can solo heal a random fight. I never said whm's cant heal or dont have nice aoe heals just that in terms of progression and end game scholars are looking to outperform whm. All the aoe healing power in the world means nothing if there are no fights designed with a whm aoe specifically in mind. Otherwise its safer to bring along the superior single target healer with sufficient aoe pet healing

    Seriously, might as well have brought up turn 2 enrage strat, see guys whm is fine, they can aoe heal lots!
    Well it's dumb to bring it up as a reason for sch/sch being better than sch/whm when whm can solo heal the fight. Sch/Sch takes much more coordination than sch/whm or whm/whm due to the cooldown of WD and the fact that many of schs abilities do not overlap. I'm not arguing against sch/sch I just think it could use a boost in this specific aspect. A lot of times playing with schs it feels like you're fighting each other when you each go to adloquium the tank and someone's galvanize is wasted or you each have to use succor multiple times because the healing aspect is pitiful and the shield is wasted.
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    Splorchess Tictac
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    Quote Originally Posted by echoist View Post
    @Splorch:
    Clear all the content first, then give advice.

    Have fun with math all you want but when it's time to take theorycrafting off paper and into practice, your ideas fall short.

    Edit: Clarity.
    I'm 3 battles short now. T5, titan, and ifrit. Given time I can easily see getting all but t5 using my network of pieced together friends and random acquaintances. Doing content with random people adds its own extra difficulty as I have to feel out what I get grouped with, and in many cases make up for other people faults. Its why I play WHM. The class is designed to fix other peoples errors.
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