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  1. #71
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    Rockaholic's Avatar
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    Kratos Deimos
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Sorry I can't help it but be "Capitan Obvious" after reading some of the post in this thread.

    Ever since warrior received well deserved rebalance, You all pallys want to have Major buffs on mitigation, dmg, debuffs skill, increase receive healing to stay on top of the Tank class.
    From the way I see it, its a bait to cry out more buffs.
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    Last edited by Rockaholic; 01-18-2014 at 08:21 PM.

  2. #72
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    Axe Fury
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockaholic View Post
    Sorry I can't help it but be "Capitan Obvious" after reading some of the post in this thread.

    Ever since warrior received well deserved rebalance, You all pallys want to have Major buffs on mitigation, dmg, debuffs skill, increase receive healing to stay on top of the Tank class.
    From the way I see it, its a bait to cry out more buffs.
    Some have hijacked this thread to express what you're saying. However, as I've said repeatedly in this thread, this is not a "buff pld" thread. I actually have i88 WAR and it was my first job in 1.0, and my first job in 2.0.

    This thread is about how PLD isn't PLD.
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  3. #73
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    E'ohi Eskhatos
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    While it does sound like its a "buff pld thread" but like Royze said PLD's just doesn't FEEL like PLD. Anything that would buff PLD to put it above WAR should also result in an appropriate buff for WAR as well. WAR may now be a PLD level tank but despite being the "standard" many people feel that PLD were still lacking and or boring. It isn't about being better than WAR it is about being better period, and if that means buffs to both everyone wins.
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  4. #74
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    No more buffs. This game is already stupid easy.
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  5. #75
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Paladin feels as much a Paladin to me as Dragoon, Monk, and Black Mage in this game feel like Dragoons, Monks, and Black Mages. Take that as positive or negative as you like, but it seems par for the course. I wouldn't mind seeing some alternate toolsets within the Paladin build, perhaps even something that is not 'just' a tank, even if it will spend the majority of its time tanking, but at the same time not a replacement for actual 'healers' or 'dps'. (Can deal damage, but is not a 'dps', can heal/mitigate-on-others, but is not a 'healer'.) But at that point Monks may as well be using Chakra bomb builds and Summoners would likely have real Evoker options... It's likely a good action-bar away or more, especially if there are still few underlying mechanics by which to add dynamics to our abilities (requiring a much larger count of particular moves).
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-19-2014 at 10:33 AM.

  6. #76
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Royze View Post
    This thread is about how PLD isn't PLD.
    Knight in shining armor. Uses a sword and a shield. Has access to weak white magic. Has Cover.

    It's very much a PLD/Knight/ナイト and feels like one.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  7. #77
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Knight in shining armor. Uses a sword and a shield. Has access to weak white magic. Has Cover.

    It's very much a PLD/Knight/ナイト and feels like one.
    You keep describing what he has access to while people are complaining of how he actually feels in play. Its nice that he has "access" to weak white magic but its not used and thus doesn't "feel" like a pld in game play. The other holy-ish like abilities that pld does use regularly in his rotation (circle of scorn, spirits within) don't "feel" very white magic like. The entire argument is about how he plays not what the description of what the pld is which you keep bringing up.
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  8. #78
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    Only thing i want paladin to have, is for flash to have it's own cooldown.
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  9. #79
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    Lyger Zero
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    Only thing i want paladin to have, is for flash to have it's own cooldown.
    I would *LOVE* this!
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    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    Don't really want no changes. Its the only class in the game that has well thought out skills.
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