SCH needs an oh S*** ability

[Sanguisio]

I've run Titan EM a few times and if im honest the healing was better when I ran with two scholars.
Plus our bard could solely use foe requiem, AOE damage always occurs within a rotation, so we just use Rouse WD after post upheaval landslide, then interlocked succors and had no issues also our fairys were able to feed the tank heals continuously while we dodged.


Without a doubt AOE healing is easier with WHMs, but this in this case where spikes are predictable etc.
SCHs can also DOT

[Thriar]

Roused wispering dawn would like to have a talk with your WHM....

That CD would like to have a word with you. This topic isn't even about raid healing. It's about a ST 5min CD that in the future could be useful. Everyone needs to get off their high horse of who plays sch better.

[Sanguisio]

Why cant we go back to good old days of just flooding every city possible with carbuncle

[AishaK]

You know what? Sure have a 50% hp shield with no animation delay. While we are at it lets fix whispering dawn, a 60 second cooldown is ridiculous, best put it at 30 seconds so it matches the duration. Hmm i still feel like something is missing though. Oh i know scholars dont have any single target heal over time spells, how could we have overlooked that!?

Wait a second...

Scholars still might lack in the aoe healing department for fights that dont exist, we should add in a new aoe heal that doesnt shield, physique 2!

[LordSaviour]

SCH is NOT a WHM. Why do we need to mirror WHM skills??? Just like WAR is not a PLD(Alot of WAR want Silence). They don't need Mirrored Skills.

[Hulan]

While I am equally befuddled by the OP's apparent complete lack of respect for Lustrate as an "oh shit" ability, some of the discussion did give me a funny idea for a totally reasonable 3-5 minute cooldown for SCH that would not make us really that much more powerful, but still be a satisfying pre-"oh shit" button.

Xanatos Gambit (named for fun)
Cooldown: 5min
Effect:
Guarantees a critical on the next healing spell.

I'll grant, it steps on MNK's toes a bit. The cooldown is too long to be used in a normal healing situation, but can guarantee a double shield before that nasty Mountain Buster.

[Thriar]

While I am equally befuddled by the OP's apparent complete lack of respect for Lustrate as an "oh shit" ability, some of the discussion did give me a funny idea for a totally reasonable 3-5 minute cooldown for SCH that would not make us really that much more powerful, but still be a satisfying pre-"oh shit" button.

Xanatos Gambit (named for fun)
Cooldown: 5min
Effect:
Guarantees a critical on the next healing spell.

I'll grant, it steps on MNK's toes a bit. The cooldown is too long to be used in a normal healing situation, but can guarantee a double shield before that nasty Mountain Buster.

I think force crits would be a great addition not for just healers but for dps as well. For a future level cap increase, I could see some jobs getting this ability. This could be a great addition for sch. A 1 min CD wouldn't be overpowered. Even 45 seconds I could see.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Roused wispering dawn would like to have a talk with your WHM....

Divine Seal Medica 2. What's your point?

[AishaK]

Divine Seal Medica 2. What's your point?

Roused whispering dawn apparently tics for alot more than medica 2 now, think old medica 2 +15% or so for 30 seconds. So i hear anyway, i haven't tested the numbers myself.

and this is with divine seal up...

[Splorch]

Note* The below math is with 0 criticals

With decent gear DS + Medica II ticks for AVG 161 10x over 30 seconds = 1610 + 624 initial (2234 total) ~74hps / Costs 452 mana with a ~2.85 GCD/cast time can cause aggro issues(WHM death) depending on fight/tank
With decent gear Rouse + whispering dawn does AVG 338 8x over 24 seconds = 2710 total ~112hps / Costs 0 mana, no GCD, fairy 1.9 second cast/may cause Eos a death depending on fight
Rouse + Fey Illumination + whispering dawn AVG 405 8x over 24 seconds = 3244 total ~135hps / Costs 0 mana, no GCD, Fairy has slight delay + 1.9 second cast//may cause Eos a death depending on fight

Being that the only 2 fights that have a general use for consistent group regens are King behemoth(which is a total pubstomp mob) and Ultima during laser phase(still not top tier mob) and all other fights are on a consistent rotation, usually lasting yeah you guessed it, 1 minute, whispering dawn is the far superior skill. The only thing that Medica II is good for is its massive range when playing with pugs, because there's always that 1 BRD that believes he benefits from being max range on every single fight.