I want 2.2 to be a "reset" for players in full i90 gear. Make Turn 6 a distant goal.

[Sygmaelle]

Dont want something more than ilvl100 gear big maximum for 2.2

Honestly more lvl 90 allagan drops + 50 myths in each turn are in their own a good motivation. Not everyone is lucky in their BiS ...

[Zarzak]

one way to mitigate the problem of older content becomming obsolete is to make it part of a quest you NEED to do to access the new content.

That way 'new' players will be forced to do the older content, atleast once anyway.

The gear will be obsolete, but the dungeon won't be. And the gear will still be worthwhile to those new to the game.

Exactly. Don't make group gear surpass raid gear every single raid tier. Make it surpass every 4-5. IE group gear starts being as CT1 raid gear around Coil 11-15. IE it becomes something like

group/CT1 > BC1-5 > CT2 > BC6-10 > CT3 > BC11-15

which unless they fix the problems causes by flipping the release would result in group gear matching the 1st set of raid gear in patch 2.4

[Sedant]

Turn 6 will still requite an initial clear of turns 1 thru 5 to access. So for many it still will be a distant goal. Looking forward to new content myself tho.

[DenzelTaru]

hows ilv going to reflect physical level? i am FFXI vet from when the level cap was 75 and never experienced ilv (pretty sure i saw someone talking about it when referring to ffxi so assume they added it?)

so say atm i am iLv88 (not 90 cos i REFUSE to wear the SCH hat lol) then the job level cap rises to 55 or 60.. i level to 60 but am still wearing ilv90 gear.. will my level 60 meaning anything?

[Zarzak]

hows ilv going to reflect physical level? i am FFXI vet from when the level cap was 75 and never experienced ilv (pretty sure i saw someone talking about it when referring to ffxi so assume they added it?)

so say atm i am iLv88 (not 90 cos i REFUSE to wear the SCH hat lol) then the job level cap rises to 55 or 60.. i level to 60 but am still wearing ilv90 gear.. will my level 60 meaning anything?

Item level is some system WoW came up with to help the short bus people who couldn't simply understand that group gear at lvl cap > T1 raid at lvl cap > T2 at lvl cap etc etc.


Most MMO vets would know this system as "oh you have the lvl 60 drop from <insert uber top end raid boss drop here> thats WAY better than my <insert rare boss mob drop that you killed with 3 friends>"

[Ri_ri]

I'm pretty sure item levels were created so people would stop whoring on the Gearscore addon. Nothing else...

[Alhanelem]

Remember what is was like to hit Lv50 for the first time? Darklight gear was amazing and just getting into Coil was a distant dream? I want the ceiling raised so we have that same lv of progression in 2.2

Translation: I want nobody else but me and my group to be able to beat the new content when it comes out, so I can say I was the first one to beat it and rub it in your faces.

[Radacci]

Gear in most cases is kinda inconsequential. Player skill, is king.
I did fine on TitanX, with ilv73. while i see ppl perform like crap, at ilv85+ (i even out-dps some of them)
Mostly DL was apparently fine for Twintania, and if you got CT set, it will be more than fine for turn 6-10...unless you suck ofc, then ilv100 wont be enough.
Speaking of which, turn 6 will be a distant dream for most players, since even Twintania is a distant dream still, for most ppl.
Myself i never been to Twin, because you need to have been there before, before going there the first time. So, since i haven't been there before, no one gonna take me there; which makes it a distant dream...
and who's gonna take me along to T6, if i haven't even been to T5 hmm?
90% of ppl who are on Twin, cant even kill her, with ilv90 anyways, so T6 is gonna be a distant dream for 99% of players, still.
it would need to be ilv110+, for it to be a challenge for elite ilv90 players anyways, where would they gear up for that? CT? (there's actually no CT content yet, since labyrinth is outside CT)
Most likely T6-10 will drop ilv100, and if you know mechanics, you can do it fine in ilv80 gear.

[Grailer]

People will quit eventually , and if that person happens to be your main tank who has iLVL 120 gear and it took him 9 mths to get that armor and it would take say 3mths to get another tank up to that level you can kiss your static good bye or join the real que to find a new tank for your static.

But since I hate statics and the idea of lock outs I don't have to worry about that. I would quit if they forced statics on us, but they haven't and Im in i90 armor from tomes ... all is good right

[Wolf_Gang]

So your plan is to release group content and crafted gear that makes everything currently in the game pointless and obsolete? WOW

Why would it be obsolete? You would need the current gear to obtain the new gear.