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  1. #21
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    synaesthetic's Avatar
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Scholar is a proactive healer. White Mage is a reactive healer.

    That said, Lustrate is amazing and it's seriously why I both hate playing white mage and hate doing low-level instances on scholar when I can't use Lustrate.
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  2. #22
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    Sandamar's Avatar
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    Sandamar Delys
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Is the OP really serious?
    Lustrate heals more than benediction
    Lustrate has a smaller CD than benediction

    And you still want something more?

    I really like your sentence saying "what happen if you are out of lustrate". Just OMG what about you just do like how whm do when they are out of benediction?

    Besides that benediction is far from "instant" how many times you end up having the tank dead, no healing went out and still the CD is now ticking
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  3. #23
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    Kidel Aleron
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by chumsy View Post
    As far as I know Tanks and WHMs have emergency skills on long CDs that can save lives. SCH dont have anything like this. Something like an instant cast shield, shielding a person for 50% of max hp on a 5 min CD would be nice.
    Lustrate > Benediction

    Benediction is 100% heal, but it is NOT instant. Takes up 1s or more to reach the target after it's casted. And it's not lag, it's just how it's designed (same as Hallowed Ground).
    Lustrate is 25% but it's instant and you can spam 3 in a row for 75% heal in way less than 0.5s. Also Aetherflow has a shorter CD compared to Benediction.

    Benediction is every 300s, while you can do Aetherflow (1-3 Lustrate(s)) every 60s.
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    Last edited by Tano; 01-16-2014 at 09:40 PM.

  4. #24
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    ErnestoGiovanni's Avatar
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    Ceropio Malvae
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 59
    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    Scholar is a proactive healer. White Mage is a reactive healer.

    That said, Lustrate is amazing.
    This, if you need an o shiz ability as sch, aside from lustrate, you aren't playing sch as intended. Its a proactive healer. One plays sch when they know what to expect and anticipate large hits with shields. If you miss, that's lustrate. Whms have a 100% heal oh shiz that i cant tell you how many times its made the snap for lb jump and goes on cool down just to see the person drop. They have a short delay 100% heal because they are supposed to react to dmg. The best they get is SS for big hits and precast a cure so they land the same time the tank takes dmg. Sch can drop 2 shields 3 if you count stoneskin. So i play sch when i know what's coming and can precast i play whm for big raid cures and if i am not 100% on the enemies' abilities.
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  5. #25
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    JonFarron's Avatar
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    Alistair Adfectus
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Can't believe this thread exists. Omg.

    Lustrate>>>>>Benediction in almost every way. 3 per minute, can use back to back if needed, goes off faster than Benediction, and less aggro.
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  6. #26
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    chumsy's Avatar
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    Hennessy Cognac
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I dont get why everyone is so against having another ability that can be used for emergency. Why dont you guys try double sch Ext titan let me know how that works. We shouldnt have to be forced to have a whm in the party do we? i mean every trial can be run with two whm, but 2 sch nope, dont work, and you tell me we have it equal?
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    Last edited by chumsy; 01-17-2014 at 04:42 AM.

  7. #27
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    LordSaviour's Avatar
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    Lord Saviour
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by chumsy View Post
    I dont get why everyone is so against having another ability that can be used for emergency. Why dont you guys try double sch Ext titan let me know how that works. We shouldnt have to be forced to have a whm in the party do we? i mean every trial can be run with two whm, but 2 sch nope, dont work, and you tell me we have it equal?
    I'm sure it could work. Just takes a little more coordination between the two healers. Time your Whispering Dawn to keep regen rolling. Alt your Fey Covenant / Illuminations. And have Succor / Adlo rolling in your rotations for mitigation.
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  8. #28
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by chumsy View Post
    I dont get why everyone is so against having another ability that can be used for emergency. Why dont you guys try double sch Ext titan let me know how that works. We shouldnt have to be forced to have a whm in the party do we? i mean every trial can be run with two whm, but 2 sch nope, dont work, and you tell me we have it equal?
    That's due to WHMs having better AoE healing. That is literally the ONLY thing a WHM has on a SCH currently.
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  9. #29
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    Koko Flashfoot
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness View Post
    That's due to WHMs having better AoE healing. That is literally the ONLY thing a WHM has on a SCH currently.
    A good pair of SCH can do anything, SCH are PROACTIVE healers - therefore AoE simply needs to be handle in a proactive manner. Also - together with micromanagement of pets for REactive healing, it makes them just as equal in AoE healing as a WHM. Just have each SCH rotate their pets abilities along with Rouse & Fey Illumination (which should not be used together) in rotation. Two SCH can also cast Sacred Soil on rotation, and can Lustrate on rotations too. The only issue is that both SCH need to communicate with each other.

    To the main topic: Lustrate > Benediction. Lustrate is PURELY instant and has no animation issues. Heal percentage wise it's actually more effective too. In 5 minutes you get 375% (or 450% if AF is ready AND III AF stacks are present). Benediction only provides 100% AND is typically only available ONCE or twice during a fight.
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    Last edited by Hekmatyar-Koko; 01-17-2014 at 09:15 AM.

  10. #30
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    ReviiLagoon's Avatar
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    Revii Lagoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness View Post
    That's due to WHMs having better AoE healing. That is literally the ONLY thing a WHM has on a SCH currently.
    Roused wispering dawn would like to have a talk with your WHM....
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