And so begins the Vote-kick abuse

[Radxen]

I found something weird, it might be because it was a raid, but a vote kick popped up and before I could click yes or no it disappeared, and the guy was kicked. Do you not need everyone to vote in raids or something?
Felt kinda bad for the guy too I think it was his first run and was just trying to finish the story.

[Zakalwe]

didn't know it was majority, sorry for mistake ;_;

it indeed is hard to find an optimal solution for the issue, anyway. Of course if CT drops were not locked for 1 week it would be easier not to get strange/incorrect behaviour, but that is out of question I guess.

It is not even a majority of the party, but of those voting. So it only takes 2/4 or 4/8. I think majority of party would make more sense.

[Mettaur]

It's easy to fix: Just allow everybody in the alliance to vote on kicks, not just members of the individual party. It's much, much harder for any group to control votes and kicking and trolling of runs when the entire alliance they're screwing with has power to kick them, not just their premade group that they're abusing the system with.

I like this idea.

[Highlanderx]

It honestly baffles me how you people continuously come up with ideas like this without realizing how easy it is for trolls to exploit it the other way around.

Stop asking them to make it easier for single players to troll entire groups. There's no perfect solution but if you make griefing require you to have a group go along with it then it reduces the overall chance it happens.

How does setting it up so the games Auto punish people for selecting AFK/DC as the kick reason, when the kicked person is neither(which can be easily verified), And then combining the kick and report feature for Harassment/Cheating, making it easier for people to Troll/Griefing?

Since Trolling/Griefing fall under Harassment, Anyone doing it should be kicked for that reason, not AFK/DC. And anybody Trolling/Griefing should be Reported also and not just kicked.

And I would doubt people are going to constantly file false/blank reports to abuse the kick feature like they do now. Since if they keep on doing it, it would be easy for them to be punished.

It is not even a majority of the party, but of those voting. So it only takes 2/4 or 4/8. I think majority of party would make more sense.

That is majority, Why should the person being kicked get a Vote?

[Kincard]

How does setting it up so the games Auto punish people for selecting AFK/DC as the kick reason, when the kicked person is neither(which can be easily verified), And then combining the kick and report feature for Harassment/Cheating, making it easier for people to Troll/Griefing?

How did you think people were able to afk run dungeon despite there being an automatic afk kick? They came back every 5 minutes or whatever to jump. Your solution of "automatically punish them if they click no" is a horrible idea on the basis that it makes the afk choice completely useless. Nobody would ever use it because they know somebody who bothered to hop in the queue to afk something would be around to click a prompt asking if they are afk or not. You want to give afkers more power by allowing them to use the system to punish people trying to kick them? Might as well just remove the option altogether.

Put at least a little bit of thought into the situations it would create especially considering how these sort of situations already come up.

[Highlanderx]

How did you think people were able to afk run dungeon despite there being an automatic afk kick? They came back every 5 minutes or whatever to jump. Your solution of "automatically punish them if they click no" is a horrible idea on the basis that it makes the afk choice completely useless.

Put at least a little bit of thought into the situations it would create especially considering how these sort of situations already come up.

I did think about that, That is why I said have it on a 10 or 15 second Timer. Figured if someone going AFK to leech, they are doing something else not just staring at the screen, Though didn't about PC user probably could have the window reduced really small and put into a corner, so they could watch it. So Reduce it to 5 seconds or even 3, I think that short enough that even people watching it are likely to miss it.

Also forgot to mention, that the auto punishments should be on a demerit system. And only if the kicker collect so many demerits in a certain about of time should they actually be punished. Say 5 over 2 weeks. I don't run into people that need to be kicked for AFK/DC that often so that should be enough. Mostly people need to be kicked for Harassment, in my experience. Though I mainly play on what was supposed to be my alt and its on a lower population server. Higher population servers probably need more leeway.