This is why you're not justified in being so angry.

[Miburo]

To you, not me.

I haven't played with nor bought a Frisbee in like 20 something years. If I did, I'd find it enjoyable for like 5 minutes, put it down, and then go play ARR. Therefore for me, frisbee < ARR in terms of value for me.

Value is subjective, not objective.

Holy crap. Alright, I'm SORRY. I didn't know mocking an argument to demonstrate how irrelevant "entertainment value per dollar" actually is, and even saying "using your (OP's) own logic" while doing it, would make people think I literally think it. Maybe I should have put it in italics or something? I dunno.

To make it clear, no, I do not personally think value is objective. OP does. You saw the 62.5 cents per dollar value he was using in his examples. That's a number. You know, those not subjective numerical values. Replace some variables in his equation and you'll get another non-subjective number. Etc. You're criticizing the OP when you attack that statement. You're actually agreeing with me. You get that, right? Dear Odin...

And yeah, OP. I get what you're saying, bro. Unlike some people, I'm actually pretty good at the whole reading comprehension thing. =p And I would agree with you if you simply said "This is why you're not justified in thinking FFXIV (or any MMO) offers poor entertainment value per dollar." Because you'd be right if you were simply saying MMOs provide a lot of potential entertainment compared to their cost. If that's all you meant, then cool. Totally agree. I still think there are plenty of valid complaints on the forum though too.