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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    a)and you ? you are not complaining ? kind of the pot calling the kettle, no?
    b)someone that finished the game has the right to ask for more, the more then varies depending on the person, so what ?
    c) what do you know what others do ? prefer or want to do with their money and time ?
    d) the job done may or may not be good, but that is individual perception.
    e) no matter how much we pay, is still paying, for some is not much for others it may be alot and maybe the sole way for them to get some relaxation time, again who are you to tell people is *not alot* what do you know ?
    f) so being mad at housing is fine, BUT asking, not necesseraly being mad, some more content that is unreasonable, how hypocrite of you

    It is nobody's right to tell others what they have the right to ask for when they pay with money that comes out of their pocket.

    Mei
    a) I am not complaining, I am saying that you should not. I understand English is not your first language, but nothing that I did in the OP is a complaint.
    b) They can ask anything they want, but it is not justified to be angry about it. All I am asking is for people to consider the cost they have paid versus the entertainment they have received. It is unreasonable of them to expect MORE content.
    c) This isn't a matter of what you prefer. If you do not prefer this game, then I think you should quit, or that you should have returned your copy before paying for extra months of service.
    d) Same as above, this has nothing to do with the quality of the product, simply the quantity.
    e) I know that when I compare the cost of this video game to the cost of other products, as I did in the OP, it is remarkably inexpensive for the time you could feasibly spend consuming it. That is a hard dollar figure, not a percentage, so it is universal. If you cannot afford to pay $0.62 cents per hour on entertainment, you should have never purchased this game. You should have gone for a walk or done something less expensive.
    f) Asking for more content this is already provided is less reasonable than asking for a solution to the problems some are having with housing, yes. I am not in support of people becoming angry about anything (this is a game), I simply was not addressing that issue in this post.

    You have missed my point completely. Spend your money however you wish - more importantly, stop spending your money however you wish, that is (what I believe) every human's right. However, people that are asking for or demanding more new content are being unreasonable, in my opinion.

    When you finished Final Fantasy VII, did you go to the forums and say, "WTF SquareSoft? Why is this game over?! This is bull!!!" No, because you paid a fair price for a game. Same case here. This is not unlimited content.
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    For the amount of money I pay.. probably lower than $0.21/hr I would like pandas.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    you spent a lot of time on this when the game came out, and it simply couldn't handle your awesome ability to consume. They couldn't hire enough game developers for the price you paid to entertain you enough.
    I don't think it's cause he/she (and other players alike) consumed everything so fast. The game is very easy and you can run through things without even trying. Yoshi already said that end is when the game begins. So I'm guessing that's why he made 1-49 so fast. That part is out of the player's control, if it was designed to rush you to end game.

    Also the battle mechanics aren't really hard (I'm guess since Yoshi also stated he made this with casuals and new mmoers in mind he didn't want it to be hard) so when you faceroll through one thing, you just move on face roll through the next thing. Then you run out of things to faceroll through because content is too easy. This is literally the only game where people use the "You play to much excuse" this is also the easiest mmorpg I've played. I've played games where patches/expansions come out once/twice a year and it takes awhile for the players to "eat up" the content because it's actually requires you to think.

    But if people aren't satisfied with the game/content then that's their right to be. I don't see why you care so much about other people being angry.
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    I play like 2 hours a day, and yeah, there isn't enough content.

    I've cleared everything but Turn 5. But I'm not complaining about it, I know more is coming, and I can mess aroudn with other classes till then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    But if people aren't satisfied with the game/content then that's their right to be. I don't see why you care so much about other people being angry.
    I think it has more to do with how they complain. The game has enough content having been developed for almost 3 years now. Compared to a movie ticket which gives maybe 3.5 hours of entertainment, a subscription is not a bad price.

    The dead horse keeps being beaten here though is that if people don't get value from the game they don't have to play.

    The issue is there is a difference between constructive criticism and complaining for the sake of complaining. The forums are full of the latter unfortunately.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC View Post
    factual inequalities and A LOT of assumptions
    I am a finance professional, specializing in business consulting.

    Costs you didn't account for:

    Talent retention
    Employee salaries (not the dev team)
    Office space
    Business overhead
    Consulting
    Corporate overhead
    Corporate taxes
    Employee performance bonuses
    Travel
    Special expenses (live letter, that RL FATE, etc)
    etc, etc, etc

    Not to mention there needs to be substantial profit for the corporatation to exist to provide you with this product.

    A new game costs $60, and like I said before, to get the same value out of it as you would out of ARR if you play 10 hours a week, you would need to play that normal video game for 6 days straight in every waking hour. That would be roughly 4 "new" video games per month if ALL YOU DID was play video games, which would cost you $240.00

    So you can think about it this way. If we assume ARR has the same entertainment value as other video games @ $0.62 per hour (not true, but bare with me), that means that if we wanted to fill entertainment time of let's say 40hrs/week, it should cost you about $100/mo to play a game that will keep you entertained that much on an on-going basis.

    Profit margins or gross revenue really do not have much to do with the value you assign to your entertainment. If you created an unbelievable invention that everyone in the world can't live without and is willing to pay $20.00 for, but it only costs $0.05 to make, you are still going to charge them $20.00, because the market has assigned your idea the value of $19.95

    YOU go learn some finance and economics.

    : D
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantide View Post
    I think it has more to do with how they complain.
    So then why not ignore it? I ignore all the "F U SE!" and "Some1 wuz mean 2 meh 2dai" threads and I'm pretty positive if people don't post in those threads, even to troll. They will get buried....and die...
    Let the people complain if it makes it em feel better. The only people that are OBLIGATED to read it are the forum mods since they get paid too.
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    Last edited by Lumiin; 01-16-2014 at 02:54 AM.

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    Wasn't it just yesterday that there was a thread saying basically the same thing? Has it stopped people from making complaint threads? no.
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    These threads are just as bad as the

    OMG I HATE THE GAME

    OMG SOMEONE WAS MEAN TO ME TODAY

    OMG I AM QUITTING!

    Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    But if people aren't satisfied with the game/content then that's their right to be. I don't see why you care so much about other people being angry.
    I care on an emotional level because I have a personal aversion to people making others feel bad about the work they have done for illogical and unfounded reasons. It pisses me off.
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