The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[Vodomir]

Are you seriously advocating engrage strat is bad because some people may have multiple toons?

How is this in any way shape or form relevant to the topic?


If people who are doing it have no issue and it doesn't affect you in anyway, why does it matter?

Did you even care to read any of my previous posts in this thread? If you did, you will probably notice, that I don't have any issues with people using this so called "strat" neither do I demand any change to encounter to disallow said "strat".

I'm simply not using this "strat" myself and also recommend others to not use it for a various number of reasons/disadvantages:

- it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, because winning with this "strat" just doesn't feel right, as you didn't even handle with just one of the fight's core mechanis in the intended way; all you do is merely bypass/circumvent all of the mechanics - what an accomplishment!
- players who never did this the intended way will learn absolutely nothing about the actual mechanics; they don't even learn how to deal with game mechanics in a proper way; all you show them is how to look for ways to bypass game mechanics (so while not officially an exploit, you are at least entering a grey zone of "non intended gameplay")
- if you ever want to become a member of any serious raid fc, than it certainly won't help your reputation, if all you did in Turn 2 was Enrage Mode
- enrage mode is basically a huge waste of time, as clearing it the intended way is clearly faster (not only because of the hassle you might have with switching classes/toons, but because the fight is won clearly before the clicks run out, whereas in enrage mode you first start to DPS seriously only after the clicks have run out

I don't see any advantage of using the enrage mode other than to either make up for your own incompetence to even deal with relatively easy to handle game mechanics or to carry loads of noob player to auto victory in this turn. Either way using enrage mode only shows that you are not even on par with an average raid group, as this turn isn't even remotely hard to begin with.

[Allyra]

- it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, because winning with this "strat" just doesn't feel right, as you didn't even handle with just one of the fight's core mechanis in the intended way; all you do is merely bypass/circumvent all of the mechanics - what an accomplishment!

For you it leaves a bad taste, not for everyone.

- players who never did this the intended way will learn absolutely nothing about the actual mechanics; they don't even learn how to deal with game mechanics in a proper way; all you show them is how to look for ways to bypass game mechanics (so while not officially an exploit, you are at least entering a grey zone of "non intended gameplay")

So?

- if you ever want to become a member of any serious raid fc, than it certainly won't help your reputation, if all you did in Turn 2 was Enrage Mode

If you ever want to become a member of a serious raid fc, practice doing it the legit way first. No one is forcing you to do enraged. Also, you assume no serious raid fc does enraged.

- enrage mode is basically a huge waste of time, as clearing it the intended way is clearly faster (not only because of the hassle you might have with switching classes/toons, but because the fight is won clearly before the clicks run out, whereas in enrage mode you first start to DPS seriously only after the clicks have run out.

Again for you, some decide to have that be their break time instead of after the fight. Not everyone considers it a waste of time.

I don't see any advantage of using the enrage mode other than to either make up for your own incompetence to even deal with relatively easy to handle game mechanics or to carry loads of noob player to auto victory in this turn.

Or because people aren't that obsessed with the game so would rather just be able to relax and chew the fat on vent if given the opportunity.

Either way using enrage mode only shows that you are not even on par with an average raid group, as this turn isn't even remotely hard to begin with.

Again, huge assumption that if you do enrage it means you can't do it the other way. The normal way is easy, the enraged way is even easier. Some people are always going to go for the easiest, even when they can do both.

After doing turn 2 the legit way over and over and over again, it loses its appeal as it's redundant. There is no motivation anymore to do it the normal way for some people if it means they can do it an even easier way. The group already knows they can do it the normal way as they have done it a million times. They don't have to keep proving it to themselves.

Just because there are no advantages for you, doesn't mean the advantages are only for "bad" players.