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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWrath View Post
    btw u are comparing two low lvl tankers...
    Irrelevant. The numbers work out the same no matter what level of gear they have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira View Post
    You're talking about effective HP. You also just contradicted yourself. If basic heals are less effective on Warriors than they are on Paladins, yet they both have the same EHP; percentage heals/mitigation such as Lustrate and Stoneskin would infact be more beneficial on Warriors than they are on Paladins than said heals.
    No. There is no contradiction.

    It may be more beneficial to cast the % based heal on the WAR than the non% based heal, but the % based heal is the same effectiveness on either tank, and the non-%-based heal is less effective by a slight amount on the WAR.
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    Ashira Lockhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    The % based heal is the same effectiveness on either tank, and the non-%-based heal is less effective by a slight amount on the WAR.
    Sorry, I misread your original post, what you're saying seems true.

    I am curious however if PLD and WAR do actually have the same EHP. That's the real question. In other words; is the PLD mitigation equal to the WAR HP boost? This is without even taking defensive CD into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira View Post
    Sorry, I misread your original post, what you're saying seems true.

    I am curious however if PLD and WAR do actually have the same EHP. That's the real question. In other words; is the PLD mitigation equal to the WAR HP boost? This is without even taking defensive CD into account.
    Actually the WAR has a slight advantage because their soulstone gives more VIT. But they are otherwise identical in terms of raw eHP. PLD does get block, but you do not include chance-based defence in eHP calculations. eHP is an absolute worst case scenario, where nothing triggers.

    Quote Originally Posted by NightWrath View Post
    An end game warrior has 9k hp and pld dosen't go even close to that, the difference gets a little bigger them just 1,2k hp.
    I am an end-game WAR, and I do have 9,000hp. A PLD with the same level of gear as me will have 7200hp. Do the same maths above again with these numbers and you get the same result. Percentages don't care how big the numbers get. They are in the same proportion, 1:1.25 (the WAR will have 25% more health with the same gear).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Irrelevant. The numbers work out the same no matter what level of gear they have.



    No. There is no contradiction.

    It may be more beneficial to cast the % based heal on the WAR than the non% based heal, but the % based heal is the same effectiveness on either tank, and the non-%-based heal is less effective by a slight amount on the WAR.
    An end game warrior has 9k hp and pld dosen't go even close to that, the difference gets a little bigger them just 1,2k hp.