What's causing FiOS users to get so much lag since 2.1?

[ispano]

It's not Level3's problem here as I am being routed through Congentco.


EDIT: PS, the server is fine in the mornings and after maintenance when they're half empty. (Gilgamesh)

The point is the same, it's not the servers themselves so much as a connection between some people and the servers. Even if it's the ISP SE uses, they can still only talk to them, they can't force them to fix it outside of switching everything to another ISP... if there even is one.

[DSanchez]

The point is the same, it's not the servers themselves so much as a connection between some people and the servers. Even if it's the ISP SE uses, they can still only talk to them, they can't force them to fix it outside of switching everything to another ISP... if there even is one.

Nevertheless the problem lies within SE and their datacenter/upstream provider.

[ispano]

Nevertheless the problem lies within SE and their datacenter/upstream provider.

It's not SE. I will repeat it as many times as I have to. If it was the line direct to the datacenter, EVERYONE would have the issue. It could be their ISP, but all they can do is tell them it's an issue, not to mention neither Level3 or Cogent are their ISP.

[DSanchez]

It's not SE. I will repeat it as many times as I have to. If it was the line direct to the datacenter, EVERYONE would have the issue. It could be their ISP, but all they can do is tell them it's an issue, not to mention neither Level3 or Cogent are their ISP.

The problem exists only since patch 2.1, only with Final Fantasy XIV, and only when the server is populated. The problem is with SE not anyone else.

[ispano]

The problem exists only since patch 2.1, only with Final Fantasy XIV, and only when the server is populated. The problem is with SE not anyone else.

Then what did they do wrong? What do they need to change? 2.1 brought the change from 0.3 second positional polling to 0.1 seconds. That means more data going through those routers. Things like this will expose issues in those routers that weren't noticed before. If this is why, then SE tried to help the players, and then they get this in return, lovely isn't it?

[Noata]

The problem exists only since patch 2.1, only with Final Fantasy XIV, and only when the server is populated. The problem is with SE not anyone else.

baseless observations, What you listed is just the symptoms of an issue. they serve only to show an issue is present. your conclusion is flawed. If we followed this same logic, the world due to our observation is flat, and the sun clearly circles it as it rises and sets around the earth. that's just how limited a persons "Observations" are. So it cant "Clearly" be an SE issue as we don't even "clearly" know exactly what is causing the "Issue"

[DSanchez]

baseless observations, What you listed is just the symptoms of an issue. they serve only to show an issue is present. your conclusion is flawed. If we followed this same logic, the world due to our observation is flat, and the sun clearly circles it as it rises and sets around the earth. that's just how limited a persons "Observations" are. So it cant "Clearly" be an SE issue as we don't even "clearly" know exactly what is causing the "Issue"

No, I listed conditions under which the symptoms occur. Clearly, something was changed in patch 2.1 that made the symptoms occur.

[ispano]

No, I listed conditions under which the symptoms occur. Clearly, something was changed in patch 2.1 that made the symptoms occur.

And I listed one of the obvious things that could cause it. Yet that's not something people want taken back.