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  1. #241
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    Devilray Asura
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    I am talking about people who are full myth gear on one job and have never done coil. They are avg ilvl 90, same power potential as a hardcore raider but have never stepped foot into real endgame. After a few months of the game's release, this is highly possible.
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    Last edited by Devilray; 01-15-2014 at 09:03 AM.

  2. #242
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    It doesn't invalidate that they have also put in some effort to get their gear. Just because you undermine their efforts, does not mean it's not effort at all. I have never seen a player who is full Myth, and has not once stepped into Coil. It's really easy to pug T1 - T4 nowadays. They may not have Allagan gears to show for it, but they have at least stepped inside, and at least know what Caduceus looks like.

    Gear is not a representation of skill. The logic can be twisted too - just because you are in full Allagan does not make you a skilled player. Similarly, you could be in full Myth and you could be a skilled player. Generalization is bad.
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  3. #243
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    The myth cap may be removed when they come out with the new tombstones for AF2.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Stop whining to Mommy that the game is still too hard for you to gear when you already have access to BIS MAX ILVL gear that shouldn't be accessible from casually DF'ing.
    Did you even read my whole post, or any of my posts? I even edited it to say I would be fine if they made it possible to actually get Coil gear, then don't drop the myth cap. The game isn't hard to get gear, it prevents it. I've learned all the mechanics of all the content I've played and have been able to beat it, but I'm prevented from getting anything more than 1 lucky drop a week if anything, then I'm done until Monday. I'll make a FFXI comparison for you. I could run Sky, Sea, Abyssea, as much as I wanted until I got the item I was trying to get. The same can't be said of Coil. If they wanted to make gear progression for BiS that hard, they should have stuck with HNMs and horrible drop percents.
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  5. #245
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    The caps, the lockouts, the restrictions, I wonder if SE wants us to play this game. As it stands now people can get everything they need done on Monday and never play the game until next Monday. Sounds like a job more than something you can enjoy.
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    The caps, the lockouts, the restrictions, I wonder if SE wants us to play this game. As it stands now people can get everything they need done on Monday and never play the game until next Monday. Sounds like a job more than something you can enjoy.
    Exactly. But people seem to think loosening up the restrictions would cause the game to fail. I think it would do the opposite.
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  7. #247
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    Arya Noone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    The caps, the lockouts, the restrictions, I wonder if SE wants us to play this game. As it stands now people can get everything they need done on Monday and never play the game until next Monday. Sounds like a job more than something you can enjoy.
    That doesn't sound like any job I've ever had.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyGuy View Post
    I'll make a FFXI comparison for you. I could run Sky, Sea, Abyssea, as much as I wanted until I got the item I was trying to get. The same can't be said of Coil. If they wanted to make gear progression for BiS that hard, they should have stuck with HNMs and horrible drop percents.
    That's not true for old Dynamis, Slavage, Nyzul(Assaults), Limbus, Odin. Since they were preparing ff14 ARR, they made it a lot easier in FFXI and made everything daily.
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  9. #249
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    The caps, the lockouts, the restrictions, I wonder if SE wants us to play this game. As it stands now people can get everything they need done on Monday and never play the game until next Monday. Sounds like a job more than something you can enjoy.
    I'd love a job that pays me all the monies, for 1 - 3 hours a week. Sounds like a damn good job lol.

    Also, who's to say you can't find a job you actually enjoy doing?
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  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    That's not true for old Dynamis, Slavage, Nyzul(Assaults), Limbus, Odin. Since they were preparing ff14 ARR, they made it a lot easier in FFXI and made everything daily.
    Yes that is true for some of the FFXI original content, but there was way more end game content. They also ended up changing it to be able to run it more often. Plus at certain points in the game, a lvl59 body armor was good enough to run a majority of endgame content. They didn't put the emphasis on having to have the newest or highest lvl gear to compete in end game.
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