Parties kicking players out beacuse of being in different languages

[Caraway]

If you do not speak the language, do not queue as it.

If you can't communicate, how can you form an effective group?

[gadenp]

If you do not speak the language, do not queue as it.

If you can't communicate, how can you form an effective group?

Sir, in worlds like Masamune, queuing for only the secondary language gives you extremely long queue times. Even a tank can take up to 30+++ minutes for a simple 4 man party.

And before you say, we should move to a US server. Please note that physically half the world is closer to Japan. And in a game like FF14 which lag is a huge part, that 200+ more latency is big. Also we will encounter another problem in which US main times and ours do not sync.

Which is why, if you bother to read the forums instead of this trolling the OP, you would know that there is a request in the forum going around to group the servers with big English speaking populations together or to even dedicate a server for English people in the Japan Data centers.

Lastly, is this not a forum for Masamune players, what is a guy from Balmung doing here? Seriously looks like trolling ....

[Caraway]

Sir, in worlds like Masamune, queuing for only the secondary language gives you extremely long queue times. Even a tank can take up to 30+++ minutes for a simple 4 man party.

And before you say, we should move to a US server. Please note that physically half the world is closer to Japan. And in a game like FF14 which lag is a huge part, that 200+ more latency is big. Also we will encounter another problem in which US main times and ours do not sync.

Which is why, if you bother to read the forums instead of this trolling the OP, you would know that there is a request in the forum going around to group the servers with big English speaking populations together or to even dedicate a server for English people in the Japan Data centers.

Lastly, is this not a forum for Masamune players, what is a guy from Balmung doing here? Seriously looks like trolling ....

It certainly isn't trolling. It's common courtesy to be able to effectively communicate in the social game you're playing. It's unfair to the other people who you're going into when you lie and say you are able to speak a language you cannot. If you can use translation well enough or can give enough grasp of a language to make it through then there's obviously no issue.

And no, I wouldn't ever say that you should change servers as I completely understand the issue with geolocation and lag. And I actually 100% support the threads asking for server groups being adjusted to ensure that English pseaking people in the JP Datacentre are able to more easily communicate with each other.

Ultimately it's up to SE to make this smooth for people, but you still shouldn't lie and say you can do one thing when you cannot, and thus inconvenience a group of other people. I would not be pleased if people selected English just to get a faster group when they could not speak it. I like being able to communicate with my teammates, and from everything I've heard about the Japanese players they are very much the same.

And whether I'm from another server or not should be moot, we are a global community after all and this issue does happen in the NA/EU datacenters (though to a much less degree from what I've heard) so it's an issue that concerns all of us.

[Cairn]

If you do not speak the language, do not queue as it.
If you can't communicate, how can you form an effective group?

Agree.
There are many English players join a JP party and ask them to speak English instead because they don't speak JP. I was like "Huh? What!?"

Here is an example:
Last week, an English player "Dragoon" joined a JP coils party for turn 1, he doesn't speak JP, but he said it's okay he has done it before. Well, he died few times and when we discuss strategy at Caduceus, he said, "I don't understand, please use auto-translation".
Luckily, I was there and one of the JP players explaining to him.

Here another one:
Two English player tank join a JP coils party for turn 4. The JP leader was so happy finally got tanks to join in. He greeted them with simple English and asks, "Did you guys done it before", the tanks answered "Yes".
Nah, we can't even get pass to P2, both tanks at the wrong position. They don't even notice and yet keep shouting "Not enough DPS!". After 3 tried, the JP party leader had to disband the party and apologize to his JP teammate.
And next thing, I saw "JP Only" in his Party finder comments.

There are more stories actually but I'll save it for next time.

@OP,
I join JP party all the time, basically I cleared 99% game contents with them, I never got kick not even once. However, if you join a "JP Only" in Party finder, and yet you don't speak JP, you're asking for it, you deserve it.

[Yallaid]

Agree. *snip*

I'm just replying to this quote while I read the rest of the thread, but I want to add my 2 cents.

It really sounds like most examples of ENG or non JP players getting kicked occurs in the end game content only. I think, just like most players from any country, JP players probably aren't going to kick your or have a problem with a mixed language party when you're running Sastasha or some other low/med level dungeon. But I'm not going to hold it against them if they want to be able to communicate easily when they're PUGing Coil, such as in the example above.

My favorite party so far was a low lvl where we were all Lala and at the end the other 3 players spammed "otsukarelala" which I thought was just peachy, but I wouldn't think any less of those players if it'd been Coil and they had asked me to leave because they needed to take on the content more seriously, they've got every right to.