I want 2.2 to be a "reset" for players in full i90 gear. Make Turn 6 a distant goal.

[DefendPopPunk]

TF are tombstones

[Nica]

Anyone who's played an MMO by now has got to realize that there will be expansions, and that new expansions will come with new gear that renders old "ultimate" gear obsolete or redundant.

You may want to change that to "typical gear-grind MMO".

I've played Eve for 7 years now, and that interceptor is just as viable today as it was when it was first added, if not more so, the addition of new ship classes didn't automatically render older classes "obsolete".

It's called proper balance and good game design.

[Lodiodrive]

Horizontal Progression? Nahh, Vertical Progression? Nahh, Diagonal Progression gooooooooooooooooo

[Kaloran]

You may want to change that to "typical gear-grind MMO".

I've played Eve for 7 years now, and that interceptor is just as viable today as it was when it was first added, if not more so, the addition of new ship classes didn't automatically render older classes "obsolete".

It's called proper balance and good game design.

CCP is, by far, my favorite company to throw money at.

[Tiggy]

Too short sighted.

[Magis]

Anyone who's played an MMO by now has got to realize that there will be expansions, and that new expansions will come with new gear that renders old "ultimate" gear obsolete or redundant. If you're VERY VERY lucky, a system may be implemented to upgrade the old gear to keep it superior (and even if they do, the system will probably be a horrible grind), but honestly you should resign yourself to the fact that while you may have Ultimate Build right now, it probably won't last.

People always complain, "I put SO MUCH WORK into weapon X, and now it's JUNK!" If they didn't see it coming, I gotta wonder what's going on in their heads... especially since folks are able to get fully decked in i90 gear after just four months of play! SE wants you playing for YEARS, and while some of that can be handled with new battles and environments, there will come a point where long-time players are asking themselves why they're going through all this stuff when the rewards are no better than what they already have. Pushing back the goalposts, giving folks new goals to strive for, is a tool for this, and if not abused can even be a good tool.

One poster gave EVE as an example, another is FFXI (yah, yah) until Abyssea came out. Gear didn't get thrown out after the next flavour of the month came in. Horizontal progression > Vertical progression. Even AF1 gear was useful for a while... not thrown away right when you hit 50.

You may want to change that to "typical gear-grind MMO".

I've played Eve for 7 years now, and that interceptor is just as viable today as it was when it was first added, if not more so, the addition of new ship classes didn't automatically render older classes "obsolete".

It's called proper balance and good game design.

I'm tempted to play again.

[Teleniel]

Coil turn 1~5 : requires i70 (drops i90/95)
Coil turn 6+ : requires i80 (drops i95/100) (drops crafting materials for i80, which can be melded)

This would allow for a lot more 'sway' in equipment. Currently the ilevel for accessories makes it very hard to use any crafted equipment and meet players ilevel requirements for content even when you over gear it. It would also static groups to balance out upgrades to make sure they're evenly distributed even if you're not upgrading to BiS.

[Zarzak]

Remember what is was like to hit Lv50 for the first time? Darklight gear was amazing and just getting into Coil was a distant dream? I want the ceiling raised so we have that same lv of progression in 2.2

Make turn 6 of coil require at least iLv120 gear and require an avg of i90 gear to run the new dungeons.

Dungeons should drop green i100 armor and new tombstones.
New tombstones buy i110 LightDark and crafting items.
New primals drop i120 accessories
A new and much harder relic quest for i120 weap
reserve i130 for CT part 2
Allagan2/AF2 i140 gear
Allag weaps i145

How about you go back to WoW and its clones with your gear reset crap? "Worked months to get your gear and display your skill at being able to clear the hardest content? Sorry that guy whos played for a week has greens better than you"

WoW did it so good that from what I heard they actually REMOVED older expansion raids because even Blizzard knows that they become completely pointless.

It's poor game design to totally invalidate everything in a previous expansion as soon as a new one releases.

No 2.2 dungeon should drop gear above ilvl 80 (accessories mostly to supplement CT gear) and DAMN sure should not replace anything in BC 1-6.

[Yshnal]

Power creep is bad enough as it is as to make it appear so soon and in such a harsh way as the OP suggests. I can see them releasing i95 gear for Coil T6-9 and i100 for T10 in a similar way as it works now with T1-5, but increasing it even more wouldn't be wise at the moment and would require further changes and rebalancing in the future (stat inflation FTW).

Personally, horizontal progression (or at the very least "diagonal" progression, as some have called it) should be the way to go, relying on harder and more complex mechanics (and no, that doesn't mean OHKO AoE avoiding, specially here with the current issues with the delay) instead of just higher numbers. The whole "the boss hits harder but my armor mitigates more" is just weird, IMO, as we're always almost on the same ground as the enemies that we have to fight regardless of any higher numbers that we could get between different tiers of gear so, in the end, we're just getting new looks.

[Mitski]

@OP

2.2 is a content patch, not an expansion.