Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

[Braxy]

I'm so sick of all the QQ SMN ARE SO OP QQ spammage.... is NO ONE bothered by being slept for 30 sec (which, of course, is purified) then for 15 seconds, then for 8 seconds, then the match is over... really, no one?

[allymarie]

I'm so sick of all the QQ SMN ARE SO OP QQ spammage.... is NO ONE bothered by being slept for 30 sec (which, of course, is purified) then for 15 seconds, then for 8 seconds, then the match is over... really, no one?

pretty much how anti sora got to 30, literally the same thing every match... AOE sleep, swift cast sleep, sure cast sleep.

Anyone else pissed about being slept LOS, or the horrible lag that this game offers?

[Quackley]

I'm so sick of all the QQ SMN ARE SO OP QQ spammage.... is NO ONE bothered by being slept for 30 sec (which, of course, is purified) then for 15 seconds, then for 8 seconds, then the match is over... really, no one?

No, people are bothered by it.
And it's stupid, but sleeps are infinitely (someone pls point out my exaggeration) easier to deal with than a summoner running up and 2 shotting you with zero setup.

oh no, it still says I'm a thaumaturge main!
NOW EVERYBODY WILL KNOW

[Fyreus]

I'm so sick of all the QQ SMN ARE SO OP QQ spammage.... is NO ONE bothered by being slept for 30 sec (which, of course, is purified) then for 15 seconds, then for 8 seconds, then the match is over... really, no one?

Last time i played ffxi there was a whm who had stun resists on his gearset who magically resisted my second, third, fourth, sixth, and seventh stun (i'm unsure if the mnk foolishly charged ahead and ruined my first stun at the same time i assumed i landed it) and made me think that it's possible to pile up on sleep resistance to achieve similar or the same effect.

That also makes me look at the whining and crying over sleep moot especially since using purify after the initial sleep drops you down to a 15 sec sleep (chances of you being reslept the same second are extremely low in any case) and after that you're still in play. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Rawkzor]

That also makes me look at the whining and crying over sleep moot especially since using purify after the initial sleep drops you down to a 15 sec sleep (chances of you being reslept the same second are extremely low in any case) and after that you're still in play. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too.

A member of my FC was saying the same thing yesterday, and then we did about 35 PvP matches together. He changed his tune pretty quick. Being slept for 30s, breaking it with Purify quickly, and then immediately being put back to sleep right away, game after game, he realized that pushing to force people to purify early is actually a strategy. It's not a chance thing, they do it on purpose to get you locked into that 15/7s second and third sleep, and then they stun you 3 times (if PLD is present).

[Fyreus]

A member of my FC was saying the same thing yesterday, and then we did about 35 PvP matches together. He changed his tune pretty quick. Being slept for 30s, breaking it with Purify quickly, and then immediately being put back to sleep right away, game after game, he realized that pushing to force people to purify early is actually a strategy. It's not a chance thing, they do it on purpose to get you locked into that 15/7s second and third sleep, and then they stun you 3 times (if PLD is present).

The trick isn't to break it when they're focusing you. I don't know what class he was but if you break sleep infront of me i will make sure you are reslept. The goal in pvp isn't just to win, but not to loose and part of that is deception. Breaking it when they turn around, are attacked, or when they focus elsewhere turns you into a free agent. Sure it sucks when someone sleep focuses you (i've had a whm, who wasn't being dealt with, focus sleep me until my whole team died so i can understand).

No one documented the effects of sleep resist since no one is really getting those materias and i believe that would change the conversation.