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  1. #1
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    Mintyfresh's Avatar
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    Gengis Kharnage
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 55

    Request to Dev's. Tune Titan HM.

    Folks,

    I'm not the one to ask for easier content, but do yourselves a favor and tune this fight.

    IF, the goal is to make an item available to everyone that works hard at it, make it so people are able to do this in an adequate fashion.

    I do not have an issue with the fight, I'm a tank, I haven't died to landslide more than a couple of times (over 60 + attempts).

    That being said, people have lag, everyone's reflex is not good, I see good players dying because there is ZERO flexibility that this fight allows. I understand that you want to test the skillset of players, but for an introductory relic that everyone can get(I'm assuming it's so due to the nature of the quest), make it so you are not punishing people.

    (cont.)
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    (cont.)

    There are a lot of issues with this game, A LOT. The code doesn't allow us to even do two things at a time, like trade and look at our duty finder queue or run on a mount and talk to vendors etc. etc. I've overlooked all these things and am willing to give time for the code to mature.

    But this Titan fight is really getting to me as it's not a coding hurdle, it's what you have implemented. Countless attempts(infact I changed my class from warrior to a paladin and restarted the relic reborn quest, when I was on the last step of it on my warrior), just so I'm not a pain for healers and I'm literally stuck on the very same step.

    It's the kind of fight where geared people don't want to jump in to help members from their FC due to the fact that 1 mistake can wipe the raid entirely(and it usually does).

    3-4 weeks later, I'm still on this quest and getting highly discouraged by the game. I've never asked anything to be made easier, but not everyone plays at the same caliber.
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    (cont.)
    There are always weak links in a group and it's our responsibility to help them through that.That being said, the design of the encounter makes it rather impossible for people to do that.
    I have no issues with getting stuck on progression bosses when it comes to raiding..but this...is frustrating.

    Very very discouraging. Bring every fault I see in the game to the foreground and makes the exponentially annoying.

    ./End Rant
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    Cearka Larue
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    are you doing random Duty Finder groups? cause that takes forever.

    I setup a party finder group for my war and summoner relic and included a reasonable ilvl requirement (65) as well as an EXPed only tag. it was a piece of cake.
    On the other hand I Duty findered my scholar relic and it took forever to find a good party.
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    I've tried both.
    Last one was someone playing on ps3 that had issues.
    It's just something or the other always.
    I'm about to give up completely.

    Since I posted my last comments, tried with a ilvl 65 party(pf), heart down everytime, but always end up losing someone. I think the problem is that game is still new, lots of people still learning stuff, still getting used to stuff and still being carried. For mechanics to be tuned like this is rather ridiculous. We have a healthy mix of people in the FC, good, mediocre and bad players, just like in every group of individuals. Sad to think that some raids are bloody easier than this.

    Like I said, i don't blame the people who are dying completely either, lots of them are dying to extremely minor mistakes(clipped by landslides/multi plumes). Guess it gets frustrating dying twice on 70+ attempts and still not getting it done.
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    Last edited by Mintyfresh; 01-11-2014 at 12:07 PM.

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    Pink Deadly
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    Ultros
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    To quote Tom Hanks in A League of Their Own:

    "Of course it's hard. If it wasn't hard everybody would do it. The HARD is what makes it great."

    I know it's tough and not entirely on you, but stick with it and it will happen. It's near the end of a quest chain that leads to the second or third best weapon in the game. It needs to be hard, and boy is it satisfying when you down it.
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    "A dream doesn't become reality through magic; it takes sweat, determination and hard work." Colin Powell.

    We can all quote things.

    What I'm addressing is the point at which this fight is introduced and the difficulty it's introduced at.
    I don't have issues with things being hard, however this quest is introduced as a way for hardcore and semi-casuals to get a piece of gear that is a good starter introductory raiding gear.
    I have no issues with the difficulty as such being implemented in raids, none whatsoever.

    However if such a quest is introduced for a lot of people to get "up and started", it should definitely be hard, but not a roadblock. It also makes it rather impossible for anyone with any sort of latency and you really have no flexibility in the fight. That's what my remarks were about.

    It's bad design. That being said, it's just an opinion of mine and everyone's entitled to theirs. I have no issues with that
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    Last edited by Mintyfresh; 01-11-2014 at 03:18 PM.

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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    I am with you on this but you can still get a really good weapon without Titan HM...Moggle Weapon iLv80. I really think you need a better group though. They need to fix this fight but they probably never will so all I can offer is that everyone in the group needs to learn how to pre-dodge and just learn Titans order of moves for each phase. They key is playing with the SAME players everytime so you know you are all getting better together and you learn to play together. I got it down on a PUG group on one of my runs but I got lucky and we were all good.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    Player
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    I got Ifrit HM axe on my warrior prior to me respeccing him to a paladin.

    It's just frustrating to see a "core" quest, available to all being jacked up by such nonsense. That's all.
    I keep repeating that I don't have lag and I haven't died to this much at all, perhaps twice in my 80+ attempts(see how the number keeps going higher as I keep trying to attempt it )

    That being said, perhaps you are right, perhaps it's better to just let go of this one and fight the battles that I can fight.
    I have an entire set of darklight gear and gloves from CT. Maybe I should just work on an alternate weapon.

    Meh, 15 days left on my trial, we'll see how much longer it lasts. Like the game and it makes me very nostalgic and brings back some good memories, but perhaps it's not worth the frustration.
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    Last edited by Mintyfresh; 01-11-2014 at 03:49 PM.

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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    If it makes you feel better my coil group has been farming turns 1-4 for over 8 weeks and in coil for 12 weeks... Between the two bards and myself we have gotten 7 drops. 2 of those are best in game... all others can be replaced. The three of us have actually gotten way more gear for alts...

    Long story short... there is a lot of very annoying things in this game.
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