We had to remove core FC members from group for Titan Extreme in place of PUG's.

[stpetepiper]

well for one, you have to move before seeing it so have to guess where it's going to come from. For the second, I don't think you understand how triangles work.

I'm looking at the video in your signature and that does not look like any kind of lag ive seen in any MMO or online game EVER. That is low fps which is caused by your graphics being turned up to high or a machine that just cannot handle it. Real lag causes issues like rubberbanding and teleporting across the room, not your client running slow. Also if its that hard for you to dodge a landslide that you have to guess... you probably shouldn't be in the encounter because you are definately just holding 7 other players back. I guarantee if you fix your fps that your "lag" issues will disappear.

[Allyra]

I'm looking at the video in your signature and that does not look like any kind of lag ive seen in any MMO or online game EVER. That is low fps which is caused by your graphics being turned up to high or a machine that just cannot handle it. Real lag causes issues like rubberbanding and teleporting across the room, not your client running slow. Also if its that hard for you to dodge a landslide that you have to guess... you probably shouldn't be in the encounter because you are definately just holding 7 other players back. I guarantee if you fix your fps that your "lag" issues will disappear.

/sigh

Where to begin. ( I wonder if you have actually read my posts.)

1. The slow speed you see in my .gif that you are attributing to fps, is just the forums not liking the .gif file (it works fine elsewhere). If you want to see the clip at normal speed here is the youtube video I took the clip from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4T...ature=youtu.be

2. That is not me in the .gif (I would think that obvious as the sig is a lala and my avatar is a mi'qote).

3. I have stated I do not have these issues anymore because I have been using a VPN service for over a month now. Had this been an issue of fps/graphics/hardware/etc. then I would still be experiencing the lag issue even with the VPN. I can dodge like superman with the VPN. My computer/fps is fine. For me, it was clearly an issue of hops.

4. I can't speak personally for the person in my sig as I don't know them. What I can say is that I DID have the exact same problem as them before having the vpn, and that I do not have that issue at all with it. As well, if you spend only a few minutes on youtube you can see many other clips people have uploaded with the same problem.

5. All your "fixes" have little to nothing to do with the ps3 version of the game, which is what I am arguing for.

6. Before you jump on point 5, 90% of the time I use a pc, but sometimes I have to use a ps3 (I don't do fights like titan when I do because of said lag). I feel if they are going to allow the game on the ps3, they need to make sure the ps3 can handle it. (I would personally love to play on the ps3 more, but know I can't because of said issues.)

[stpetepiper]

allyra, im not gonna respond in bullet points as much as i want to, but no, i don't read every post all the time, thats why i always try to quote any in particular I'm responding to. feel free to redirect me to previous ones if you see fit. How would I know that your gif plays slower than video? You also would not be the first person in the world to have 2 characters or used a fantasia potion. I'm glad that you do not have those issues anymore. I know plenty of people on the ps3 that can handle the fight just fine without said issues. I'm not trying to just assume you have an old ps3, I'm just going out on a limb saying that it is very likely that anyone that has a ps3 that is older, their system will very likely not handle it as well as a newer one since the PS3 has been out over 7 years. I've said this in another post, but if you have 2 computers with the exact same insides, the one that has been chugging along for 5 years is not going to run as well as the one that is a month old.

[Allyra]

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The part where you aren't reading the posts is assuming I still have said issues when I stated several times I don't and how I have stated several times it is an ISP issue. Yet you wanted to make it sound like my lag was a myth, and attacked me for holding 7 other people back.

The fact that some have ps3s that work and some don't can ALSO be attributed to the ISP issue. It's not just about age. If people are getting a bad hop on the pc, they are going to get a bad hop on the ps3.

IF they are fine on the pc, but not on the ps3, then you would have a point.

[stpetepiper]

I stated in my last post that I was glad you no longer have the issue. I only said that if you can't avoid the basic mechanics of the fight you are holding ppl back, no matter what the issue, not necessarily saying its all your fault, but in the end its hurting the members if you are dying because of said issue. You could always add txt next to your gif that says "this is not the real video" or a link to the video. because that gif makes it look like a completely different problem. You are the one that made it sound like the ps3 cannot handle the game, now your saying it might be because of the ISP. If you have a bad ISP, that is not the PS3's fault, that is just a bad ISP.

I feel if they are going to allow the game on the ps3, they need to make sure the ps3 can handle it. (I would personally love to play on the ps3 more, but know I can't because of said issues.)

[stpetepiper]

This isn't towards you allyra because I haven't seen you say anything in particular about it, but I don't see why people would want them to change the mechanics of the game to make up for their bad ISP. Should people with high latency also get a dmg buff to make up for lost dmg? Where does it end?

[Allyra]

I stated in my last post that I was glad you no longer have the issue. I only said that if you can't avoid the basic mechanics of the fight you are holding ppl back, no matter what the issue, not necessarily saying its all your fault, but in the end its hurting the members if you are dying because of said issue.

Except I am not having these issues, so saying I can't dodge when I never said that is evading the issue.

You could always add txt next to your gif that says "this is not the real video" or a link to the video. because that gif makes it look like a completely different problem.

It's just a silly gif I don't expect people to go on long rants about it just to try and pretend lag doesn't exist when there is more than enough evidence it does.

You are the one that made it sound like the ps3 cannot handle the game, now your saying it might be because of the ISP. If you have a bad ISP, that is not the PS3's fault, that is just a bad ISP.

No, you are not understanding my point. The ISP issue is huge, as a LOT of people are having this problem. It was the dumbest idea ever to put all the servers in one spot in canada to handle both the NA and EU. With that said, PC users can pay extra to solve this problem (VPN), ps3 users cannot. Since SE is allowing the game to be on the ps3 and know that many are having this issue that is unavoidable for the users, they need to compensate for that (either through the game or spreading out their servers).

[stpetepiper]

Except I am not having these issues, so saying I can't dodge when I never said that is evading the issue.

What I said was never meant to be an attack on you personally, just more a statement about anyone with those issues. Wait till they are resolved before bringing others in grp down if you know you have issues. Don't just try to ignore the problem and continue on like there isnt one.

It's just a silly gif I don't expect people to go on long rants about it just to try and pretend lag doesn't exist when there is more than enough evidence it does.

Never said lag doesn't exist, in fact I gave specific examples of what lag can do. It still does not make it the games fault if you have a bad internet service provider whether you can fix it on your pc or not. Your ISP should still be able to handle getting that info to you timely no matter where it is located, since many many other peoples' across the world seem to manage it ok. There are more players across the world with an ok connection than ones that just happen to have bad ISPs

[Allyra]

It still does not make it the games fault if you have a bad internet service provider whether you can fix it on your pc or not.

It is if SE loads them all in one spot. If you notice people's complaints with the game, it comes from people that never had these issues before. Other games have always compensated by making sure lag is not going to put you in a one-shot kill mechanic. As well as splitting up their servers so they don't get overloaded. Imagine one highway going from Cali to Niagara Falls. Imagine how much traffic there would be on that highway since that is the main way to get there. SE created that issue.

Your ISP should still be able to handle getting that info to you timely no matter where it is located, since many many other peoples' across the world seem to manage it ok.

I don't know how that is relevant. I don't control my ISP.

There are more players across the world with an ok connection than ones that just happen to have bad ISPs

Assumption. We have no way to say one way or another. But even if that were true, it doesn't have to be the majority for it to be a serious problem. There have been a million threads on this topic and considering this thread:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

Is at 1755 posts, and not everyone with the issue posts on the forum, that says there is probably more than enough to consider it an issue that needs to be addressed.

[BlueMage]

Funny how nobody just isn't performing up to par. Everyone is always a perfect player, who's skills would shine through if only it wasn't for all the "lag".