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    Quote Originally Posted by Yagrush View Post
    I've tanked this many a time, and I don't see these mythic Wicked Wheels as Off tank. I take chirada first and then Suprana, and never see Melees take damage sept for random frinctions, tornadoes, or slipstreams.
    That's probably because Suprana and Garuda use WW, not Chirada. And I'm not entirely sure, but I haven't seen Suprana use WW after Chirada is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    That's probably because Suprana and Garuda use WW, not Chirada. And I'm not entirely sure, but I haven't seen Suprana use WW after Chirada is dead.
    They do... that's what all the hassle is about, generally people kill chirada and when melee moves onto suprana they get face melted by double WW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeruMew View Post
    They do... that's what all the hassle is about, generally people kill chirada and when melee moves onto suprana they get face melted by double WW.
    The last few times I tried (as DRG) OT pulled Suprana away from Garuda (after downing Chirada), I was fully expecting WW but never saw it, this was at least 3 or 4 times in a row we tried it, and I didn't see it once. I don't know if it's random, or has to do with their relative distance from the other, all I know was I kept moving back to the center to avoid it and it never happened.
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    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Slipstream>Friction>Downburst>Wicked Wheel, if I remember correctly
    Thank you. For all melee scared to get hit by Wicked Wheel, just move back when you see Garuda cast Downburst, then back after they Wicked Wheel. /win


    Quote Originally Posted by Traek View Post
    There is multiple ways to do this fight without melee getting hit by double wicked wheel at all. It is sad on multiple levels people can't think outside the box once they see a guide/method that lets them apply their face to the keyboard and roll around. It is really telling of all parties that this is happening, and I hope people start spreading *correct methods* of doing Garuda EX rather then just take the no brain method and exclude members.
    Thing is you can still do it with those faceroll methods as well, just have to have people dodge WW.

    However this is also true, if one strategy doesn't fit your group, then try new ones (or other ones already invented, or reinvent them yourself). Don't feel stuck because you can't do it ni the exact same way some other group does it.

    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The last few times I tried (as DRG) OT pulled Suprana away from Garuda (after downing Chirada), I was fully expecting WW but never saw it, this was at least 3 or 4 times in a row we tried it, and I didn't see it once. I don't know if it's random, or has to do with their relative distance from the other, all I know was I kept moving back to the center to avoid it and it never happened.
    Maybe because they are apart? Sisters also die fast. (asuming you're saying they got split on the last phase as well) But this just proves how by slightly changing strategy it is also doable and even maybe easier on other roles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeruMew View Post
    Thing is you can still do it with those faceroll methods as well, just have to have people dodge WW.

    However this is also true, if one strategy doesn't fit your group, then try new ones (or other ones already invented, or reinvent them yourself). Don't feel stuck because you can't do it ni the exact same way some other group does it.
    Yep, exactly. It is funny because with my coil group, we watched videos our first time through to have an idea, but we almost always did it differently then a guide's way, or our other Coil group's way. We thought about our group dynamic and made tweaks/priorities based on that to where we now snooze through it.

    I agree that you are saying melee can dodge wicked wheel with some forethought, but if they are having to do this then the party is using the wrong strategy from the get go.
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