And so begins the Vote-kick abuse

[Ricky]

I wonder how many times such thing happens in the JP community. Not saying they're better than us, but we westerns know how to be 5-star douches.

"Not saying they're better than us, but they are better than us"

[Gesser]

@Hvinire, my two cents: I think you guys should just make it so that a Vote-Kick cannot be enacted/completed during a loot-roll until item(s) are won & placed into players' inventories.

Simple, easy solution.

As well, idk if you guys have noticed, but players like the idea of "forced-loot" for traditional dungeons as opposed to CT (e.g. if party members leave without rolling, you auto-win the piece rather than having to wait around 300 seconds).

[Earthgaia]

Actually if you were going to make it based off the rolls it would have not allow kicking of someone who has rolled on an item, but if they have not rolled at all it should allow.

Also one of the better counter measures would be to allow a single person in the party other than the one being kicked to dismiss the vote kick as abuse and have it canceled. That way you only need one person with a brain working that doesn't just mindlessly click yes to to vote kicking anyone.

Doesn't this situation just point out how mindless the other members are for not realising the person was playing and gets kicked because the others are not even paying attention.

Also it would have been a lot smarter to only have the vote kick options be afk only that way you can't just lie and say someone was subjectively harassing you when that is hard to prove and disprove in a translated game.

Gesser:
As well, idk if you guys have noticed, but players like the idea of "forced-loot" for traditional dungeons as opposed to CT (e.g. if party members leave without rolling, you auto-win the piece rather than having to wait around 300 seconds).

Um people are correct about the mechanics being dysfunctional when it comes to giving you loot you never rolled on, it should quickly give you the item IF you "ROLLED" on it, but it should wait out the timer of 300 secs to let you decide with or without the other party members if you have not rolled on the item.

[Laranja]

Oh no! Alert SE. I'm sure this will lead to the immediate removal of the feature. I'm super cereal.

^^ heh. There's always one...

[Warlyx]

You all got trolled. Rolls only happen once everyone has hit Need or Greed... meaning you don't know your roll till the item has been given out.

ehm NO , u can see your roll on the loot window , open the window again after rolling and u will see the number on the item icon.

[Arkista]

Thank you for your input on the vote dismiss feature. The dev. team is currently discussing countermeasures against potential misuses of the system.

Additionally, as stated in the 2.1 patch notes, any abuse of the vote dismiss feature is considered harassment. We ask that users submit a GM report should you come across any situation where the vote dismiss feature is being misused.

One thing that would be great is to have a feature on who actually initiated the Vote. Because when your kicked it doesn't say anything except you were voted out. And it is hard to tell who did the kicking when you try and do a GM call.


Edit I don't think its would be fair to report everyone in your party even though it only takes a few to confirm the vote. Never had to use the GM system for it. just know it doesn't tell you who initiates it.


EDIT again.

Well since some players aren't happy with it at all how about a feature with all the players who voted yes.

[Avorniel]

For me the vote kick system is the worst thought out part in this game ,for me it's not loot like the op but more to do cut scenes. I have 2 level 50 characters and neither of them have actually seen the last 3 main cut scenses not just the story as I know you can view that at your inn room, but the fighting parts first of it just caused a major row with half the raid this was before the vote kick was introduced and the rest kept silent and the last time last week I was threatened with being vote kicked by 5 out of the 8 as there was 3 of us wanting to see the cut scenes. so what choice did I/we have,I had already been queuing for close to 2 hours....as the fc I am in there are not many online at once and not the needed classes either.

I hate this system SE should of been able to work into the vote kick system when players are viewing the cut scenes.

For me now I am on the verge of just not renewing my sub after April (6 month sub) as I will not be threatened,bullied due to trying to actually enjoy the game. in case peeps ask I make a new separate character per class as I like a change and not over fond of fate grinding.

Shame really something that suppose to sort out afk players is ruining the game for others ...

[BobbinT]

One thing that would be great is to have a feature on who actually initiated the Vote. Because when your kicked it doesn't say anything except you were voted out. And it is hard to tell who did the kicking when you try and do a GM call.


Edit I don't think its would be fair to report everyone in your party even though it only takes a few to confirm the vote. Never had to use the GM system for it. just know it doesn't tell you who initiates it.

Well...

from OP story in 1st post, it is really clear that the other 7 party members (or should I say, the rest of party member still not leaving instance) are all guilty and in cahoots. Doesn't matter who's initiating it.

[Warlyx]

the last time last week I was threatened with being vote kicked by 5 out of the 8

it was wrong that they threatened u with vote kick, but no1 is forcing u to skip CS , if u get kicked because of it , report them.

but u waited 2h to enter the dungeon....so u agreed to skip cs in order to finish the dungeon.

[Arkista]

Well...

from OP story in 1st post, it is really clear that the other 7 party members (or should I say, the rest of party member still not leaving instance) are all guilty and in cahoots. Doesn't matter who's initiating it.

No that's not fair to say. I've been to parties where someone kicks another player and I click no. IDK how many have to vote yes in a 8 man party, but a 4 man party it only takes 2 so I would assume it only takes 4 for an 8 man party. So just because a few do it doesn't mean everyone did it. Like I did a Praet run the other day and we just got to Ultima and someone tried to kick someone it failed but there was no reason to kick anyone since all players were doing there job. I guess it was an accident as no one confessed to who tried to do it.