HELP AOE paladin

[SirGazuntai]

It always bothers me when people say to spam Flash because I've never had to do it, even before 2.1. I can run into a group of 8 monsters and use Flash > Circle of Scorn > Flash > RoH Combo > Flash > Switch Target > RoH Combo > Repeat and I never have an issue with enmity, even with BLM spamming Flare with their Relic +1.

Only time I use Flash more than once is in the beginning because a BRD can start damaging very quickly and from then on I only use it when the Blind debuff runs out. The only time I spammed Flash was when we had 3 Relic +1 BLM and a BRD, but even then I didn't repeatedly spam it.

Sidenote: I have regular Relic and Titan shield with Full DL, so my gear isn't top-notch either. With Enmity changes to 2.1 there shouldn't really be a problem unless you're doing a dungeon that syncs you below level 40. Then you're screwed since you don't have Shield Oath.

[misterdapi]

this all day

MOAR FLASH. No really. Just use more flash.

[Kadas]

why would you make your life more complicated with single target rotations when you have more than 3 mobs, if you could just use flash all day long and never lose any threat, while getting your mp back easily enough with riot blade?

I'm not sure, perhaps you want the game to be harder than it is, so you add some challenge.

[Nanaho]

why would you make your life more complicated with single target rotations when you have more than 3 mobs, if you could just use flash all day long and never lose any threat, while getting your mp back easily enough with riot blade?

I'm not sure, perhaps you want the game to be harder than it is, so you add some challenge.

thats just not a great idea when you're in a fast group, if you spam flash you're not rioting, And you're not Haloning (which also has a STR Down debuff on top of a huge Emnity spike) the STR Down on Halone is reason enough for me to cycle targets with it, its a very nice Mitigation, which, correct me if im worng, is kind of what PLD is about? >...> *tosses in 2 more cents*

[Kadas]

if I'm in a fast group with 10 mobs on me (ie. WP) I couldn't care less about STR down debuffs, and I never have any trouble surviving.
MP is also not an issue, because by the end of your mana, you can just riot blade and flash every now and then and get your mana up while never losing hate.

It's easy, it's effective, it's relaxing, why would you make it harder than it has to be?

If it's 2 mobs sure, after 2 flashes you can combo and debuff, especially if it's instanced and they deal considerable damage (ie. T4 coil soldier/knights), if it's 3 mobs perhaps so, but for more than 3, it's really just masochism at work.

You're supposed to keep hate and survive, really, that's what PLD is about.

You may want to fly your sword around like a maniac when there are 10 mobs, but it's just easier and as effective to blind them and laugh it off while eating a sandwich.

[Nanaho]

useless stuff.

I dont find that to be fun whatsoever, and when i can be more efficient doing it the Combo way rather then relying on riot to fill me up i can just move on to the next group with Halone, adding to the Group DPS in the end, making fights faster, and still never losing hate, while also having fun by staying active on the job instead of spamming 3 buttons? Yeah, ill take that option ^_^ But im not a lazy ass PLD. so

[Kadas]

I understand, it is useless because you deem necessary to do more than you have to in order to get to the same result (or worse if you're not focusing and some mob slips out and loses aggro).

Plus, it's so fun to do your 25 damage, I understand very well what you mean. Oh, adding damage towards a common goal, what a wonderful thing.

Good job being efficient, props!

[EvanderStoneguard]

Thanks for everybody post, I think its a combination of wanting to faceroll the same Main Scenerio roulettes that was my concern. At this point it seems riot and flash all day. I completly understand also the POV from ppl wanting to be more effective with combos and switching targets which I have been doing when its been 3+ and everybody is way overgeared for the instance.

Pre 2.1 I didn't have a problem with aoe tanking but I think DPS now post 2.1 that a paladin can flash all day and they can go balls to the walls which is fair, I just have to go with the times and know that this trivial stuff I have to do to get seals goes with trivial mechnaics.

Once again thanks for the help made me really udnerstand where we stand