Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[Magis]

WoW tapped into a market that wasn't tapped into. The casual market and it's been proven years ago that many people have trouble abandoning their first mmo unless it changes to the point where it's practically unrecognizable. WoW tapped into the casual market, something no mmo has done in the past, and many of those players are just now starting to tire over WoW. Only way to duplicate WoW's success? You need to tap into a new market that has never touched an mmo before. It's not as easy as it sounds.

WoW in 2004 (or even 2007) is totally different to WoW in 2010-2014. It had more in common with XI than ARR. This is where most of their gains in subscriptions came from.

[Reslin]

WoW in 2004 (or even 2007) is totally different to WoW in 2014 or ARR. It had more in common with XI than ARR. This is where most of their gains in subscriptions came from.

WoW in 2004 had very little to do with FF11 because I quit FF11 for the very reasons it was different. The leveling process was longer in vanilla wow than current wow but still 6x quicker than FF11. There's also the fact that you could solo up to max level so if you can't find a group you weren't trapped. It allowed casuals to get a character to max level. The biggest flaw was that it's end game wasn't very casual accessible but it still garnered a massive following because the restrictions on the leveling curve, crafting, etc had been made quite a bit easier and more casual.

No Reslin. WoW is the horse. It's old, and I"m tired of it. It's time for something new.

If that is the case then FF11 and Everquest is a wheel to the horse carriage. Look, I don't know what you're trying to do or argue here. I really don't. Are you telling me that WoW is just as old as FF11 and Everquest and just as outdated? It isn't. This idea is.. absurd and that argument is absurd considering that WoW and it's mechanics are newer than either of them. The car argument is very much spot on in that cars have been around for a very long time and some people are asking for the car market to change. It's very much like the mmo market and asking to go back to something older is not "Refreshing."

There's nothing wrong with believing that WoW is old. The market does need to change. I agree with you there but going back to a model older than wow isn't the way to do it.