Oh I didn't, Rune. I got people from my FC and others from the LS and we beat him on the first try. Only caveat is that almost everyone in the group except me had their relic, and most already had their relic +1 and a few i90 pieces. Finding that kind of setup in DF would almost be impossible - plus, since I formed my own party, we only had 1 tank, which lets us have 5 dps ^_^v I'll tank Titan for you whenever you need and we can practice more w/ LS peoples, too ^^