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    Quote Originally Posted by JaynanTesla View Post
    I am currently levelling my SMN to 50 so far I just hit lvl42 and my rotations are like this

    For single enemy

    Bio, Bio 2, Miasma, Virus, Atherflow, Fester, Ruin 2 and repeat

    for group of enemies

    target marked mob

    Bio, Bio 2, Miasma, Virus, Atherflow, Bane, Tri Disaster and Fester with a Ruin thrown in if time.

    As for my pets, I'll be honest I let them attack the mobs and leave them to their own devices, ill heal as and when their hp gets low and I just recently aquired Rouse so that will be incorpareted shortly

    There is a few things wrong with your rotation.

    You want to start with your longest DoT which is Bio2 and go down based on how long the dot lasts for when you start a fight. By doing a Bio2, Miasma, Bio rotation you can get two festers off without having to reapply any of the dots. This allows you to be a bit more bursty in a shorter period than if you would have to reapply. You also want to get in the habit of doing this rotation because it grants the most bang for your buck when you use Contagion. You are also not getting your best bang for your buck when using Bane while doing your rotation either. Your Bio by the time you can hit bane without having massive SpellSpeed stacking to take done the GCD would be 7sec on the Bio if it doesn't get reset and since it is a 15% chance you can not count on it resetting.

    Also, with the anti-virus crap that Yoshida put into the game using Virus whenever ya feel like is no longer the greatest idea since you will need to be saving it for o shit moments and don't want to have the 1min immunity to it when you need it the most.

    I also personally hate using Ruin2 unless I am in a very movement intensive fight like Titan battles. The extra MP really isn't worth it. Simple Ruin Spam is the way to go when you don't have to move much.

    Once you level some more you will want to throw in Miasma2 after Bio. Usually with me I cast Bio2 and Miasma as soon as I can and then while running towards the target to get in range of Miasma2 cast Bio since it is instant and then when in range hit Miasma2.
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    Last edited by Maku; 01-07-2014 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Once you level some more you will want to throw in Miasma2 after Bio. Usually with me I cast Bio2 and Miasma as soon as I can and then while running towards the target to get in range of Miasma2 cast Bio since it is instant and then when in range hit Miasma2.
    Worth noting (just for sake of completeness) that you wouldn't Miasma2 on a single target unless you were also using Contagion. Also, you kinda want to be in melee range anyway, because the occasional auto-attack is just free damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Worth noting (just for sake of completeness) that you wouldn't Miasma2 on a single target unless you were also using Contagion. Also, you kinda want to be in melee range anyway, because the occasional auto-attack is just free damage.
    I use Miasma2 on single as well. And I agree about being in melee range but when a battle starts I just get my casts off as soon as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    I use Miasma2 on single as well. And I agree about being in melee range but when a battle starts I just get my casts off as soon as I can.
    I assume you're using Contagion with it, as I pointed out? Otherwise, it's strictly worse than Ruin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I assume you're using Contagion with it, as I pointed out? Otherwise, it's strictly worse than Ruin.
    Sorry I forgot I was in the DPS forums. Yes when on SMN I only use M2 with Contagion. Sorry I mainly play SCH and was having a discussion about that in a different thread got confused. Use M2 no matter what on SCH cause I can heal while it DoTs away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Sorry I forgot I was in the DPS forums. Yes when on SMN I only use M2 with Contagion. Sorry I mainly play SCH and was having a discussion about that in a different thread got confused. Use M2 no matter what on SCH cause I can heal while it DoTs away.
    This makes no sense at all. Why would you use M2 when you can simple use a Ruin or Ruin 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    This makes no sense at all. Why would you use M2 when you can simple use a Ruin or Ruin 2?
    Because with contagion the tics & initial hit add up to more than a crit ruin.

    I tested a contagion'd miasma 2 just now on a dummy, and the damage was:

    Initial hit: 53
    Tics: 26 26 27 26 25 27 26 26 26 27

    Added together I got 315, which is about the same as a crit ruin. However, in that random test, NONE of my dot tics crit. Assuming that one or two of them crit, it would be more damage than possible with a crit ruin (higher than the possible crit range).

    Just for reference, my ruins crit between ~300 and ~326 (outside of a party, unbuffed).


    Another thing to factor in is the way some bosses work (jump / disappear & reappear), and the fact that your dots, including Miasma II, can give extra tics while the boss is off screen, or at least give you some extra damage the same moment they become targetable/vulnerable (if they are invulnerable during phase changes).
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    Last edited by xxalucard; 01-07-2014 at 10:43 PM.

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