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    Great post OP. You articulated what I've been feeling since Alpha.

    2.0 was just didn't turn out to be the game I wanted it to be, personally. It fell short, big time. I remember when I first heard about 2.0 and how Yoshida was taking the reins, it was exciting. I was really looking forward to an upgraded and expanded FFXIV 1.0.

    We got this instead; barebones of a game. Yoshida was not the savior of FFXIV to me. He kinda destroyed it for me as well as the 4 others I came to this game with.

    I am not sure how long it's going to take for SE to make things right or if they will even put forth a meaningful effort. How long do we wait for that though? *sigh*

    Anyways, speak with your wallets guys. Turn those sub renewals off, maybe SE will take the hint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Fade View Post
    Anyways, speak with your wallets guys. Turn those sub renewals off, maybe SE will take the hint.
    Sadly I doubt it, im sure they are going to milk it dry before they say screw it and flip the switch. (if it gets that bad) There won't be a third revamp as i doubt anyone in their right mind would buy the game a third time or even give it a third chance... well.. with other mmos coming soon anyway. There time to shine is right now... so they better hit it hard :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Fade View Post

    Anyways, speak with your wallets guys. Turn those sub renewals off, maybe SE will take the hint.
    Honestly, this is counter-intuitive I think. I wouldn't say that Yoshi doesn't know what we want from the game, so therefore I'm going to sub to fund new content. Not paying a sub to prove a point is smart for one, but dumb for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    Honestly, this is counter-intuitive I think. I wouldn't say that Yoshi doesn't know what we want from the game, so therefore I'm going to sub to fund new content. Not paying a sub to prove a point is smart for one, but dumb for all.
    I knew someone would say this, and honestly I was thinking the same thing you were as I typed that.

    It's obvious SE needs the funds.. and time. My faith in 'Yoshi and Co.' has slipped though.. I'll see how the game is in 6 months or so then maybe I can throw some more cash their way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhound View Post
    The game hasn't fully fleshed out, we barely have half of the total jobs meant for the game. Give it some time, sheesh.
    Can't tell if troll, but will treat as serious.

    The game isn't fully 'fleshed out' because it's obvious they rushed the release. You can tell this because all of the features they grabbed out attention with (housing, addons, etc) and content they promised for release (Crystal Tower, pvp) was not there for release; We still don't have all the features they sang the praises of yet. This game needed at least a few more months in development, and they needed to operate a proper beta, not the gong show they had going on last summer.

    SQE doesn't get anymore chances though, this is crunch time... They have a game, they have to make it work and can't expect the community to keep waiting from patch to patch, only to hear apologies from the Devs and then more promises for the next patch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    Honestly, this is counter-intuitive I think. I wouldn't say that Yoshi doesn't know what we want from the game, so therefore I'm going to sub to fund new content. Not paying a sub to prove a point is smart for one, but dumb for all.
    As long as the company does not see a drop in subscriptions, they will continue to ship content as if it has the communities full backing. No one would change direction on a project if your base is still handing you money to keep doing what you're done.

    As for SE needing money to fund new content.. They should take all of that out of pocket rather expect to take it completely out of revenue; Especially with how they're making decisions lately.
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    The OP deserves every single Like of the 100+ he got atm.
    This well written and constructive post has to be shown to Yoshi.

    I would be happy if I was shown some kind of roadmap, especially for crafting and gathering.
    Combat content is well done and in a good shape. Economy got heavily hit with the last patch, work as intend or is it, well, being afraid of RMT?
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    I like Random-Number-Generator
    'cause I'm able to accept that
    a dice normally has six sides
    a pyramid has 5 sides
    a toast has 2 sides
    AND I CAN'T PREDICT WHICH SIDES IT FALLS TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post

    As long as the company does not see a drop in subscriptions, they will continue to ship content as if it has the communities full backing. No one would change direction on a project if your base is still handing you money to keep doing what you're done.

    As for SE needing money to fund new content.. They should take all of that out of pocket rather expect to take it completely out of revenue; Especially with how they're making decisions lately.
    That's completely untrue. It would be true if Yoshi & Co. were completely oblivious to our wants and needs, but they DO read these forums. I do admit that we are just playing catch-up because patch 2.1 is just an extension of the release, and now they're taking their time with the PS4 version, but I know that they know what we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    That's completely untrue. It would be true if Yoshi & Co. were completely oblivious to our wants and needs, but they DO read these forums. I do admit that we are just playing catch-up because patch 2.1 is just an extension of the release, and now they're taking their time with the PS4 version, but I know that they know what we want.
    But how many second chances are we giving them? When are people actually going to hold this company to some sort of standard instead of just endlessly spouting "it'll get better" to everyone that wants SQE to try to improve themselves.

    And as for knowing what we want, i can consider that true when they start -giving- us what we want; I'm not talking pipe-dreams or mail-order epics, i'm talking real solid content and reliable upkeep to content that's here (ie. Odin's still a cluster that brings down servers...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    SQE doesn't get anymore chances though, this is crunch time... They have a game, they have to make it work and can't expect the community to keep waiting from patch to patch, only to hear apologies from the Devs and then more promises for the next patch.
    Sigged. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari
    As long as the company does not see a drop in subscriptions, they will continue to ship content as if it has the communities full backing.
    Full ack. My subscription runs until March 15th, but I unregistered my credit card this weekend and if they don't deliver some convincing and resilient results until then, that's it for me. TESO will be around the corner then anyway. Also cancelled my running order of "Bravely Default", plus the X/X-2 and KH 2 pre-orders, after being a SE collector for 1.5 decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Met my hubby on XI. Even though we were from different parts of the world, I flew to meet him and haven't left his side since. Now we're here in XIV :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolArisa View Post
    Sigged. Thank you.



    Full ack. My subscription runs until March 15th, but I unregistered my credit card this weekend and if they don't deliver some convincing and resilient results until then, that's it for me. TESO will be around the corner then anyway. Also cancelled my running order of "Bravely Default", plus the X/X-2 and KH 2 pre-orders, after being a SE collector for 1.5 decades.
    Heh, this isn't the squaresoft we grew up with, is it my friend? Lol. But hey Look forward to it am i right? lolz.

    All in all i really do hope they pull it out of the fire. Final fantasy has been my favorite ip for years. (9 still being my favorite).
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